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-> Re: New Members From The European Community
by (email address removed)(matts a myhrman)
-> Re: straw bales open to the public
by (email address removed)(matts a myhrman)
-> Re: New Members From The European Community
by (email address removed)(matts a myhrman)
-> Re: New Members From The European Community
by (email address removed)(Bill Christensen)
-> Re: New Members From The European Community
by M J Epko <duckchow@...>
-> Re: What is this thing?
by M J Epko <duckchow@...>

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Date: 21 Jul 1998 13:42:16 -0500
From: (email address removed)(matts a myhrman)
Subject: Re: New Members From The European Community

Matts and Judy here again...
We think that Fabien should indeed be a member...both he and Pascal have
been involved for a long long time..
On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 03:44:09 PDT "Lars Keller" <lars_keller@...>
writes:
>Dear M J Epko
>
>Is Fabien Baker also going to be part of GSBN when he gets an e-mail
>address, since he is a contry representative as well ?
>
>On Friday the 17th / July you wrote:
>
>>Rene Dalmeyer, Netherlands, rened@...
>>Axel Linde, Germany, Zypresse1@...
>>Tom Woolley, United Kingdom, T.Woolley@...
>>Lars Keller, Denmark, (email address removed)or fcenergy@...
>>Rolf Jacobsen, Norway, roljacob@...
>>Stefan Wallner, Sweden, wallner@...
>>
>>Martin Oehlmann (Netherlands) and Pascal Thepaut (France) were also
>>nominated by Matts & Judy; however, I don't have email addresses for
>them.
>>
>>*
>>
>> The following report on the First European Strawbale
>Gathering in
>>Brittany, France, on June 26th-28th, comes from Martin Oehlmann and
>will be
>>reprinted to some degree in the next TLS:
>>
>> An inspiring group of people went all the way to Finistere
>(Fini
>terra,
>>the end of the world, like the romans said) in Brittany, France to
>meet
>at
>>Pascal Thepaut's lovely strawbale home in Trovoas. Pascal Thepaut,
>Axel
>>Linde and Martin Oehlmann organised this meeting. The group had to
>deal
>>with digestion of lots of information and exceedingly delicious
>meals,
>>recollect the difficulties and priorities to focus on while enjoying
>>aperitifs, hors d'oevres, fruits de la mer, crepes and Morlaix
>wonderful
>>Coreff-beer. You can imagine we did an excellent job during the
>weekend.
>>
>> The mayor of Plougonven, where the actual meeting was held,
>made a
>nice
>>welcoming speech to this international audience, advising to build
>Europe
>>on something concrete, like straw. Friday started with introducing
>>ourselves, 25 highly strawbale-infused personalities.
>>
>> Saturday morning we learned by means of inspiring slides of
>projects
>of
>>our key-speakers Matts Myhrmann and Judy Knox (Arizona, USA) and of
>Tom
>>Woolley (Queen Univ. Belfast, Northern Ireland), of Harald Wedig
>>(Netherlands, Germany), of Martin Oehlmann (Netherlands, Germany) and
>
>of
>>Pascal Thepaut (France). Lars Keller from Denmark reported from the
>results
>>of a strawbale-gathering of Scandinavian people at the Folkecenter
>For
>>Renewable Energy in Denmark on June 6th 1998. It has been a great
>step
>>forward for the further of strawbale building development of the
>Nordic
>>countries: Denmark, Sweden and Norway with some sharing of Martin
>Oehlmann
>>on the legal breakthrough in the Netherlands. Recommendations were
>prepared
>>on organising the European network and a common testing program.
>Matts
>>Myhrmann with his profound knowledge and experience counselled us to
>raise
>>the topics that should be dealt with the next morning, eventually
>leading
>>the group to the establishment of a European (legal) organisation.
>Saturday
>>was completed with a traditional local 'Fez Noz' party in a rural
>barn,
>>traditional songs in celtic language, bagpipe music and dansing with
>local
>>inhabitants.
>>
>> Sunday the group achieved meaningful goals and decisions in
>three
>>established working groups - Communication, Outreach and Technics:
>>
>> 1. We will form a European umbrella strawbale association
>with
>national
>>coordinators:
>>
>> **The netherlands (NL)
>> Rene Dalmeyer, rened@...
>> **France (F)
>> Fabien Baker, fax:01 30 53 76 97, phone 01 30 53 44
>10
>> **Germay (D)
>> Axel Linde, Zypresse1@...
>> **United Kingdom(UK)
>> Tom Woolley, T.Woolley@...
>> **Denmark (DK)
>> Lars Keller, (email address removed)or
>fcenergy@...
>> **Norway (N)
>> Rolf Jacobsen, roljacob@...
>> **Sweden(S)
>> Stefan Wallner, wallner@...
>>
>> The secretariat and European information point will be run by
>Lars
>Keller
>>at the Folkecenter For Renewable Energy in Denmark. Lars will also
>>coordinate legal constitution. The association may in the future be
>linked
>>with other associations forming a european federation of natural
>building
>>associations.
>>
>> 2. A database at the Folkecenter will gather all available
>information,
>>setting up a who-is-who list, a list of strawbale building, of
>events,
>>workshops, lectures, documentation (books and videos) and will
>provide
>a
>>website. A fee for posting and handling, processing papers,
>telephone,
>>website, etc., to submit by every national Strawbale organiation,
>will
>be
>>paid to Lars Keller to enable him to continue his work for half a
>year.
>>
>> 3. Instead of producing national newsletters we will
>recommend
>subscribing
>>to The Last Straw and we will try to develop a European section in
>TLS.
>>
>> 4. Information for specific target groups will be prepared:
>children,
>>youth, women, elderly people, volunteers, professionals,
>owner-builders,
>>environmental and social-engaged people, socially unprivileged
>groups,
>>politicians, building officials, decision makers, farmers etc.
>Workshops
>>and public wall-raisings will be offered, lectures will be held,
>flyers
>>printed, press-kit established, participation at faires will be set
>up
>and
>>films, videos and public tools will be made. It is felt that this
>train
>of
>>good intentions needs to be grounded to serve people who build (their
>
>own)
>>houses, to integrate people into the developing process of strawbale
>>building and to add to the refinement of strawbale techniques.
>>
>> 5. We will develop funded tests in co-operation with persons
>who do
>this
>>work in other parts of the world on moisture, thermal properties,
>>structural properties, stucco, fire resistancy, breathability,
>insects
>and
>>rodents vulnerablility. A testing network has been established by Tom
>>Woolley(UK), Mark Bigland-Pritchard(UK), Martin Oehlmann(NL), Tom
>>Rijven(F), Francois Verhoeven(NL) and Dennis Fillie(NL) who hope to
>include
>>Margret Kennedy from Hannover Germany and Stefan Wallner from
>Goteborg
>>Sweden. This network will co-operate with corresponding people from
>the
>>Global Strawbale Network (GSBN). Apart from testing the goal of this
>>network is raising funds for testing and gaining Europe-wide
>acceptation
>>for tests.
>>
>> 6. Matts Myhrmann and Judy Knox will make a proposition for
>the
>following
>>members to join the GSBN: Martin Oehlmann (NL), Pascal Thepaut (F),
>Axel
>>Linde (D), Tom Woolley (UK), Lars Keller (DK), Rolf Jacobsen (N) and
>Stefan
>>Wallner (S).
>>
>> 7. Lorenzo will establish a press-kit.
>>
>> 8. Next gathering will be held approximately on a half year
>from now
>in
>>Swalmen, the Netherlands, organised by Harald Wedig.
>>
>> 9. An invitation to join the CASBA conference on March 5th
>1999 has
>been
>>transmitted. Representatives of the Eeuropean group will attend this
>meeting.
>>
>> It has been great fun to organise this pioneering event in
>Europe.
>Many
>>people shared a wonderful feeling thanks to Matts and Judy who raised
>
>the
>>level of knowledge and co-operation, establishing a strawbale family
>all
>>over the world and thanks to you who all found the way to Finistere
>>especially to Brian Lockhart from Bisbee Arizona.
>>
>>We completed the gathering with a sightseeing tour to Pascal's
>creations at
>>Morlaix. A beautiful annex for a studio and a nice little teenager's
>house
>>with red cedar shingles.
>>
>>The very best greeting to all, let's get it done friends,
>>
>>Martin Oehlmann
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Date: 21 Jul 1998 13:44:32 -0500
From: (email address removed)(matts a myhrman)
Subject: Re: straw bales open to the public

Catherine,

Just a few of the top of my head...undoubtably repeats:

The Senior Citizen's Center, a large addition onto an old building,
designed by Marley Porter, Florence, Arizona.

Meditation Center, Genesis Farm, New Jersey

Burritt Museum-Huntsville, Alabama

Contact Chris Prelitz on Nature Park Center he was working on

Chris Stafford on winery he was designing

Yoga Meditation Center, Quebec

Heartwood Institute, California

Pottery Factory and Showroom...Austin, TX

Hopland Center - Real Goods

Tree of Life Nursery Retail Sales Room - San Juan Capistrano

That's all my brain can pop out for the moment....

Judy

On Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:59:29 -0600 the black range
<blackrange@...> writes:
>Hello All,
>
>
>Please help me out -- I'm working on an article for TLS on public
>straw-bale buildings. I have the obvious ones, but know there are
>some more out there that exist that we might not know about here.
>
>
>I'll need some basic contact information and under what conditions
>the buildings are open. I would also like one good photo -- and of
>course we are under a deadline of the end of next week (July 24th).
>
>
>Please get back to me ASAP, with your ideas... Many thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Catherine Wanek, Managing Editor
>
>
><bold>The Last Straw Journal
>
></bold>HC66, Box 119
>
>Hillsboro, NM 88042
>
>(505) 895-5400
>
><<thelaststraw@...>
>
><underline>http://www.strawhomes.com</underline>
>
>

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Date: 21 Jul 1998 13:47:26 -0500
From: (email address removed)(matts a myhrman)
Subject: Re: New Members From The European Community

Mark,
Judy and Matts here, asking if there is something we need to formally do
to nominate these new members from our European countries. In addition
to the eight new members suggested below, we would like to also nominate
Barbara Jones, representing both the UK and the Republic of Ireland.
Barbara could not attend the gathering because of the flu, but a
subsequent visit with her in England left us deeply impressed with the
work she has been doing, and the straw-bale community she has catalyzed
all over the UK and the Republic of Ireland. She also become the only
female representative from Europe on the GSBN.

Martin Oehlmann's e-mail address is <martin.oehlmann@...>
Pascal has been assigned an e-mail address, but is still in progress
getting it activated <pascal.thepaut@...>
Barbara Jones has promised to have e-mail within the next two
weeks...I'll keep you posted.

What more should we do on this? Is this e-mail being copied to Lars
Keller for distribution, or are they not on the list yet? Please advise.
Thanks....Matts and Judy

On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:02:02 -0600 M J Epko
<duckchow@...> writes:
>Rene Dalmeyer, Netherlands, rened@...
>Axel Linde, Germany, Zypresse1@...
>Tom Woolley, United Kingdom, T.Woolley@...
>Lars Keller, Denmark, (email address removed)or fcenergy@...
>Rolf Jacobsen, Norway, roljacob@...
>Stefan Wallner, Sweden, wallner@...
>
>Martin Oehlmann (Netherlands) and Pascal Thepaut (France) were also
>nominated by Matts & Judy; however, I don't have email addresses for
>them.
>
>*
>
> The following report on the First European Strawbale Gathering
>in
>Brittany, France, on June 26th-28th, comes from Martin Oehlmann and
>will be
>reprinted to some degree in the next TLS:
>
> An inspiring group of people went all the way to Finistere
>(Fini terra,
>the end of the world, like the romans said) in Brittany, France to
>meet at
>Pascal Thepaut's lovely strawbale home in Trovoas. Pascal Thepaut,
>Axel
>Linde and Martin Oehlmann organised this meeting. The group had to
>deal
>with digestion of lots of information and exceedingly delicious meals,
>recollect the difficulties and priorities to focus on while enjoying
>aperitifs, hors d'oevres, fruits de la mer, crepes and Morlaix
>wonderful
>Coreff-beer. You can imagine we did an excellent job during the
>weekend.
>
> The mayor of Plougonven, where the actual meeting was held,
>made a nice
>welcoming speech to this international audience, advising to build
>Europe
>on something concrete, like straw. Friday started with introducing
>ourselves, 25 highly strawbale-infused personalities.
>
> Saturday morning we learned by means of inspiring slides of
>projects of
>our key-speakers Matts Myhrmann and Judy Knox (Arizona, USA) and of
>Tom
>Woolley (Queen Univ. Belfast, Northern Ireland), of Harald Wedig
>(Netherlands, Germany), of Martin Oehlmann (Netherlands, Germany) and
>of
>Pascal Thepaut (France). Lars Keller from Denmark reported from the
>results
>of a strawbale-gathering of Scandinavian people at the Folkecenter For
>Renewable Energy in Denmark on June 6th 1998. It has been a great step
>forward for the further of strawbale building development of the
>Nordic
>countries: Denmark, Sweden and Norway with some sharing of Martin
>Oehlmann
>on the legal breakthrough in the Netherlands. Recommendations were
>prepared
>on organising the European network and a common testing program. Matts
>Myhrmann with his profound knowledge and experience counselled us to
>raise
>the topics that should be dealt with the next morning, eventually
>leading
>the group to the establishment of a European (legal) organisation.
>Saturday
>was completed with a traditional local 'Fez Noz' party in a rural
>barn,
>traditional songs in celtic language, bagpipe music and dansing with
>local
>inhabitants.
>
> Sunday the group achieved meaningful goals and decisions in
>three
>established working groups - Communication, Outreach and Technics:
>
> 1. We will form a European umbrella strawbale association with
>national
>coordinators:
>
> **The netherlands (NL)
> Rene Dalmeyer, rened@...
> **France (F)
> Fabien Baker, fax:01 30 53 76 97, phone 01 30 53 44 10
> **Germay (D)
> Axel Linde, Zypresse1@...
> **United Kingdom(UK)
> Tom Woolley, T.Woolley@...
> **Denmark (DK)
> Lars Keller, (email address removed)or
>fcenergy@...
> **Norway (N)
> Rolf Jacobsen, roljacob@...
> **Sweden(S)
> Stefan Wallner, wallner@...
>
> The secretariat and European information point will be run by
>Lars Keller
>at the Folkecenter For Renewable Energy in Denmark. Lars will also
>coordinate legal constitution. The association may in the future be
>linked
>with other associations forming a european federation of natural
>building
>associations.
>
> 2. A database at the Folkecenter will gather all available
>information,
>setting up a who-is-who list, a list of strawbale building, of events,
>workshops, lectures, documentation (books and videos) and will provide
>a
>website. A fee for posting and handling, processing papers, telephone,
>website, etc., to submit by every national Strawbale organiation, will
>be
>paid to Lars Keller to enable him to continue his work for half a
>year.
>
> 3. Instead of producing national newsletters we will recommend
>subscribing
>to The Last Straw and we will try to develop a European section in
>TLS.
>
> 4. Information for specific target groups will be prepared:
>children,
>youth, women, elderly people, volunteers, professionals,
>owner-builders,
>environmental and social-engaged people, socially unprivileged groups,
>politicians, building officials, decision makers, farmers etc.
>Workshops
>and public wall-raisings will be offered, lectures will be held,
>flyers
>printed, press-kit established, participation at faires will be set up
>and
>films, videos and public tools will be made. It is felt that this
>train of
>good intentions needs to be grounded to serve people who build (their
>own)
>houses, to integrate people into the developing process of strawbale
>building and to add to the refinement of strawbale techniques.
>
> 5. We will develop funded tests in co-operation with persons
>who do this
>work in other parts of the world on moisture, thermal properties,
>structural properties, stucco, fire resistancy, breathability, insects
>and
>rodents vulnerablility. A testing network has been established by Tom
>Woolley(UK), Mark Bigland-Pritchard(UK), Martin Oehlmann(NL), Tom
>Rijven(F), Francois Verhoeven(NL) and Dennis Fillie(NL) who hope to
>include
>Margret Kennedy from Hannover Germany and Stefan Wallner from Goteborg
>Sweden. This network will co-operate with corresponding people from
>the
>Global Strawbale Network (GSBN). Apart from testing the goal of this
>network is raising funds for testing and gaining Europe-wide
>acceptation
>for tests.
>
> 6. Matts Myhrmann and Judy Knox will make a proposition for
>the following
>members to join the GSBN: Martin Oehlmann (NL), Pascal Thepaut (F),
>Axel
>Linde (D), Tom Woolley (UK), Lars Keller (DK), Rolf Jacobsen (N) and
>Stefan
>Wallner (S).
>
> 7. Lorenzo will establish a press-kit.
>
> 8. Next gathering will be held approximately on a half year
>from now in
>Swalmen, the Netherlands, organised by Harald Wedig.
>
> 9. An invitation to join the CASBA conference on March 5th
>1999 has been
>transmitted. Representatives of the Eeuropean group will attend this
>meeting.
>
> It has been great fun to organise this pioneering event in
>Europe. Many
>people shared a wonderful feeling thanks to Matts and Judy who raised
>the
>level of knowledge and co-operation, establishing a strawbale family
>all
>over the world and thanks to you who all found the way to Finistere
>especially to Brian Lockhart from Bisbee Arizona.
>
>We completed the gathering with a sightseeing tour to Pascal's
>creations at
>Morlaix. A beautiful annex for a studio and a nice little teenager's
>house
>with red cedar shingles.
>
>The very best greeting to all, let's get it done friends,
>
>Martin Oehlmann
>
>
>

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Date: 21 Jul 1998 15:56:28 -0500
From: (email address removed)(Bill Christensen)
Subject: Re: New Members From The European Community

GSBN@...,Internet (greenbuilder) writes:
>Is this e-mail being copied to Lars
>Keller for distribution, or are they not on the list yet? Please advise.
> Thanks....Matts and Judy

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Date: 21 Jul 1998 16:36:00 -0500
From: M J Epko <duckchow@...>
Subject: Re: New Members From The European Community

Welcome Back, Judy & Matts! I'm sure we're all looking forward to hearing
about your trip (once you decompress a bit)...

At 02:26 PM 7/21/98 EDT, Judy and Matts wrote:
>In addition to the eight new members suggested below, we
>would like to also nominate Barbara Jones

Let me know when she's emailized and I'll add her. Her response to the TLS
moisture questionnaire exhibited an impressive bit of experienced
knowledge, and I already consider her a valuable asset to the SB work of
the commons... very willing to share her experiences... and getting her
involved here would be beneficial all around.

I acted without regard to protocol - the issues of GSBN protocol not
really having been decided yet, as far as I understand it - in adding the
European representatives without discussion. The work they've undertaken is
urgent; each of them have good reputations that preceded their nominations;
and we're all well-acquainted enough with Judy & Matts to know that they
wouldn't nominate anybody without the greatest benefit to SB in mind. If
anyone feels that I acted rashly, please email me and we'll set up a small
offlist email circle to hash things out, posting the results here for
comment, so that I'll know how to behave more appropriately in the future.

Martin Oehlmann is also on the list now.

Please advise me when Pascal Thepaut is plugged in, and we'll get him in
on the party. (If I add him now, with his account at wanadoo.fr not yet
activated, posts to him will just bounce back.)

*

While I have your attention, Judy & Matts - Satomi asked me to ask you to
email over your OOB(Un)Ltd, or whatever you choose, info for the Human
Resources List, to (email address removed)... thanks - and, again, Welcome
Back!



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Freewheeling autonomous speculation - Think!
Personality #7 represents only itself.
M J Epko - duckchow@...
Kingston, New Mexico
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The big question is whether you are going to
be able to say a hearty yes to your adventure.
- Joseph Campbell


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Date: 21 Jul 1998 16:36:47 -0500
From: M J Epko <duckchow@...>
Subject: Re: What is this thing?

To all new members and old, this list is your forum. Feel free to make
suggestions as to its use, and about what we can do together that will be
of benefit to SB as a technique and to each other as individuals working
with the technique; ask questions; inform the others about what you're up
to individually and collectively; give answers; ruminate, speculate.

*

No takers for the following, eh? Guess I'll give it a whack tomorrow.

At 06:55 PM 7/17/98 -0600, you wrote:
> Anybody want to whip up a couple-hundred-word (or less) GSBN
>update for The Last Straw sometime over the next couple days?...
>I've got my fingers all over this issue (book and software reviews,
>mostly) and it sure would be nice to hear somebody else's voice.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Freewheeling autonomous speculation - Think!
Personality #7 represents only itself.
M J Epko - duckchow@...
Kingston, New Mexico
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The big question is whether you are going to
be able to say a hearty yes to your adventure.
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