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-> Re: SB codes?
by (email address removed)(matts a myhrman)
-> Re: SB codes?
by M J Epko <duckchow@...>

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Date: 27 Jul 1998 12:59:10 -0500
From: (email address removed)(matts a myhrman)
Subject: Re: SB codes?

Mark,

Judy Knox here...

I'm sure David Eisenberg will respond as the most knowledgeable center of
code info, but here's a comment or two:

First: There is a whole other level of straw-bale code resource
information, and although it hasn't been compiled yet to my knowledge, it
might at least be mentioned along side of actual places that have adopted
straw-bale codes, so that readers don't think that it's an all (codes are
adopted) or nothing (can't build straw-bale) situation. That is, that
there are many locations that are approving or have approved straw-bale
buildings - both load-bearing and nonload-bearing - under the existing
code in that area (usuually under a section named "Alternative Methods
and Materials"), even though it does not specifically include a
straw-bale amendment. TLS used to keep track of many of those under a
Pop The Cork title, but it's way beyond that now.

Second: Even though I know of no international straw-bale code, there
are a number of international locations that have code-approved
straw-bale buildings...Australia, New Zealand, Sweden, Finland, Norway,
Holland, France, England, Wales, Scotland, to name some of them.

Third: Then there are the countries and U.S. domestic areas that either
have no codes or no code enforcement....we have often had requests to
list those areas from people wanting to build straw-bale and willing to
move so there is no code hassle. I don't think we've compiled that list
either, but it would be a helpful resource.

Fourth: California does not have straw-bale code as a state. The
legislature passed a model code that was sent on to code jurisdictions
throughout California recommending adotpion, but that has to go through
approval at each regional and/or local code jursidiction. CASBA should
know what other towns other than Napa, California has straw-bale codes
(they were the first to adopt load-bearing codes, based on Pima County's
original draft code, but still require an engineer's or architect's stamp
of approval.

Fifth: I'd re-check Nevada...not sure what's happening there. The state
legislature passed a nonload-bearing straw-bale code based on New
Mexico's code several years ago, but I'm not sure how that has all played
out since then.

Sixth: Add the little town of Guadalupe, Arizona, which has adopted the
Tucson/Pima County code for load-bearing and nonloadbearing buildings.
Which reminds me, it would be helful to add whether a jursidication has
straw-bale codes for load-bearing, nonload-bearing or both.

That's it from here in the Out On Bale courtyard in HOT Tucson.....


On Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:02:53 -0600 M J Epko
<duckchow@...> writes:
>Hey all -
>
>Are there more SB codes adopted than Austin TX, Boulder CO,
>California,
>Cortez CO, Nevada, New Mexico, Tucson/Pima? I'm feeling like there
>probably
>are. Is there anything adopted on the international scene yet?
>
>*
>
>Austin, TX http://www.azstarnet.com/~dcat/Austin.htm
>
>Boulder, CO http://www.azstarnet.com/~dcat/Boulder.htm#Baled Straw
>Structures
>
>California AB1314 (Mandate for S-B Codes in Cities and Counties) from:
>CA
>Dept. of Housing & Community Dev., Div. of Codes & Standards, PO Box
>1407,
>Sacramento, CA 95812-1407, (916) 445-9471. Online at these URLs:
>http://www.sustainable.doe.gov/codes/castraw.htm, or
>http://www.snowcrest.net/smb/CALIFORNIA.htm, or
>http://www.azstarnet.com/~dcat/CAcode.htm, or
>http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=18001-19000&
>file=18944.30-18944.34 (part one, along with)
>http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=18001-19000&
>file=18944.35 (part two, along with)
>http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=18001-19000&
>file=18944.40 (part three)
>
>Cortez CO http://woodsprite.com/cortez-codes.html
>
>Nevada Code mandate: AB171, Straw Bale Guidelines from State
>Legislature,
>Rm 101, Legislative Bldg., 401 S. Carson St., Carson City, NV 89710
>...
>website?
>
>New Mexico S-B Code: New Mexico CID, 725 Saint Michaels Dr., Santa Fe,
>NM
>87504, (505) 827-7030 http://www.state.nm.us/rld/rld_cid.html; the
>text of
>this code is online at
>http://www.earthbuilding.com/nm-straw-bale-code.html, or
>http://www.azstarnet.com/~dcat/NMcode.htm
>
>City of Tucson and Pima County Arizona Building Code, Appendix Chapter
>72,
>Straw Bale Structures from: City of Tucson, 201 N. Stone, Tucson, AZ
>85701
>http://www.sustainable.doe.gov/codes/azstraw.htm, or
>http://www.azstarnet.com/~dcat/Pimacode.htm
>
>The DCAT Working Paper: Straw Bale Construction and the Building Codes
>is
>being expanded to include adopted and pending building codes and
>legislation, and a list of code organizations. Also includes list of
>code
>officials available to talk to other (your) code official about
>straw-bale
>construction. For purchase or more information contact: DCAT, PO Box
>41144,
>Tucson, AZ 85717, (520) 624-6628, e-mail: <strawnet@...>;
>phenomenally
>comprehensive website http://www.azstarnet.com/~dcat/barriers.htm
>
>*
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Freewheeling autonomous speculation - Think!
> Personality #7 represents only itself.
> M J Epko - duckchow@...
> Kingston, New Mexico
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Nothing is sufficient for the person who
> finds sufficiency too little.
> - Epicurus
>
>
>

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Date: 27 Jul 1998 18:53:19 -0500
From: M J Epko <duckchow@...>
Subject: Re: SB codes?

At 01:38 PM 7/27/98 EDT, Judy wrote:
>I'm sure David Eisenberg will respond as the most knowledgeable center of
>code info

I've already purged his phenomenal website, and hope he'll be able to help
out with a couple blocks I'm running into.

I've added an introductory paragraph lifted almost verbatim from your
email (you're the BEST!). I haven't gone through the codes to determine
which are LB, which aren't, and which are both... we're running out of
time. Perhaps David knows off the top of his head, otherwise the
distinction will be made in next year's Resources issue, which is basically
already started. Researching what parts of the country don't enforce
building codes would be a fun project next time around too.

A quick aside: Judy's input (and that of some other folks) has been
extremely helpful... we've thought that TLS would benefit enormously from
having a board of advisors, like Environmental Building News has. I'd
welcome anybody's thoughts on the idea.

Back to codes: I've still got a couple calls out, but here's what I have
so far... any comments will be warmly welcomed...

*

The following straw-bale building codes have been adopted. However, there
are many locations that are approving or have approved straw-bale buildings
- - load-bearing and/or nonload-bearing - under the existing code in that
area (usually under a section named "Alternative Methods and Materials"),
even though it does not specifically include a straw-bale amendment. It is
by no means an all (codes are adopted) or nothing (can't build straw-bale)
situation. Some areas, in fact, enforce no building codes at all; check
with your local government.

We're not aware of any straw-bale codes on the international scene;
however, there are a number of international locations that have
code-approved straw-bale buildings: Australia, New Zealand, Sweden,
Finland, Norway, Holland, France, England, Wales, and Scotland, to name
some of them.

Austin, TX http://www.azstarnet.com/~dcat/Austin.htm
Their city employees are nuts! I have a request in to Bill Christensen to
see if he has any reliable info...

Boulder, CO ... We spoke with a representative of the City of Boulder who
indicated that they would distribute copies of material to people who came
to their offices and requested them, but asked that we not publish their
contact information. We can respect that. Luckily for all of us, DCAT is on
the ball and has published this code at their website
http://www.azstarnet.com/~dcat/Boulder.htm#Baled Straw Structures

California AB1314 (Mandate for S-B Codes in Cities and Counties) from: CA
Dept. of Housing & Community Dev., Div. of Codes & Standards, PO Box 1407,
Sacramento, CA 95812-1407, (916) 445-9471. Online at these URLs:
http://www.sustainable.doe.gov/codes/castraw.htm, or
http://www.snowcrest.net/smb/CALIFORNIA.htm, or
http://www.azstarnet.com/~dcat/CAcode.htm, or
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=18001-19000&
file=18944.30-18944.34 (part one, along with)
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=18001-19000&
file=18944.35 (part two, along with)
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=18001-19000&
file=18944.40 (part three).
Technically, this is a code guideline that California municipalities have
been encouraged to adopt by the state government. Municipalities that have
adopted this code or a variant of it include Napa and Butte counties.

Cortez CO http://woodsprite.com/cortez-codes.html
I have a call in to Jeff at the Cortez Building Inspector's office 210 E
Main St Cortez, CO (970) 565-3402

Guadalupe AZ has adopted the Tucson/Pima code; see which.

Nevada Code mandate: AB171, Straw Bale Guidelines from State Legislature,
Rm 101, Legislative Bldg., 401 S. Carson St., Carson City, NV 89710 ...
website? I posted to the CREST SB list for help from any Nevada resident.

New Mexico S-B Code: New Mexico CID, 725 Saint Michaels Dr., Santa Fe, NM
87504, (505) 827-7030 http://www.state.nm.us/rld/rld_cid.html; the text of
this code is online at
http://www.earthbuilding.com/nm-straw-bale-code.html, or
http://www.azstarnet.com/~dcat/NMcode.htm

City of Tucson and Pima County Arizona Building Code, Appendix Chapter 72,
Straw Bale Structures from: City of Tucson, 201 N. Stone, Tucson, AZ 85701
http://www.sustainable.doe.gov/codes/azstraw.htm, or
http://www.azstarnet.com/~dcat/Pimacode.htm

The DCAT Working Paper: Straw Bale Construction and the Building Codes is
being expanded to include adopted and pending building codes and
legislation, and a list of code organizations. Also includes list of code
officials available to talk to other (your) code official about straw-bale
construction. For purchase or more information contact: DCAT, PO Box 41144,
Tucson, AZ 85717, (520) 624-6628, e-mail: <strawnet@...>; phenomenally
comprehensive website http://www.azstarnet.com/~dcat/barriers.htm



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Freewheeling autonomous speculation - Think!
Personality #7 represents only itself.
M J Epko - duckchow@...
Kingston, New Mexico
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We have to believe in free will. We've got no choice.
- Isaac Bashevis Singer, in The Times


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