Wednesday, April 14, 1999 10:55:06 PM
From: GSBN@...,Txinfinet Incoming
Subject: Digest for 4/14/99
-> Cold Climate Greenhouses
by "Lerner, Helmuth, McCandless" <options@...>
-> Re: GSBN: SB at Expo 2000 in Hannover
by Ketsie@...


Date: 14 Apr 1999 13:52:23 -0500
From: "Lerner, Helmuth, McCandless" <options@...>
Subject: Cold Climate Greenhouses

Dear Richard,
You are indeed in the correct place to gather info about cold climate
straw-bale greenhouses. I've been working in Mongolia for the last 3 years
training and designing straw-bale clinics, schools and surprise, surprise,
greenhouses. I will put my straw-bale greenhouse manual in the mail to
you today. It's in english but has many illustrations (like a comic book)
and all the text is on one side so it can easily be replaced with a

It covers all uses of straw - from cold frames to extend the growing season
clear up to larger greenhouses suitable for a family or two. All very low
tech with gravel bag foundations and local materials.

Mongolia touches Kazakstan and has many Kazaks in the western part of the
country. I've often thought that straw-bale would be perfect for the
'stans, given the relatively dry, cold climate and grain production.

I'm off to Argentina today to do straw-bale training there on a clinic and
school, and will be out of touch of my email for 2 weeks. Then I'm home in
California May 2- May 10, and then to Mongolia and China until September.
Let me know if I can help in any way (besides the manual). Best of luck to

Kelly Lerner
One World Design

>Date: 13 Apr 1999 02:20:22 -0500
>From: Mark Piepkorn <duckchow@...>
>Subject: Help for Osh, Kyrgyzstan?
>Forwarded message
>To: strawbale@...
>From: Richard Tracy <mciosh@...>
>Greetings to all of you out there in Strawbale land!
>My name is Richard Tracy and I am the Southern Regional Manager for Mercy
>Corps International in Osh, Kyrgyzstan. For those of you know where
>Kyrgyzstan is, may your bales of straw forever be strong and dry.
>For those of you who don't, well, you are not alone! If you want to know,
>just find India on a world map. Head north to Pakistan, then Afghanistan
>(your getting the picture now) and you magically enter the land of the
>"Stans". K-stan is a struggling Central Asian republic with beautiful
>mountains, poor people and a corrupt government.
>So why the geography lesson?
>I joined you group in order to learn more about strawbale greenhouses. It
>is our goal here to try to get the poor people of K-stan less dependent on
>the government budget (and foreign aid, too) and onto providing for
>themselves. A greenhouse that is low cost, low maintenance and productive
>could have a positive impact.
>However, I am not sure if I am in the right location because while I have
>been "lurking" the discussion seems to revolve around houses and rather
>advanced topics of which plaster to use. Unfortunately, this stuff is way
>over my head and at this point, not the information I need.
>Thus I put my questions to you in plain and simple manner:
>1) Am I in the right place to learn about Strawbale Greenhouses?
>2) If the answer to #1 is yes, please help me with designs and suggestions.
>3) If the answer to #1 is no, please help me to find the appropriate web
>Thanks for your help in advance and I look forward to getting any and all
>Richard E. Tracy
>Southern Regional Manager
>Mercy Corps International
>333 Lenin Street
>Osh, Kyrgyzstan 714000
>Phone/Fax: (3222) 5 54 86
> 5 69 51

But what good is passion if it does not make you shudder at the
limitlessness of its possibilities? - Bharati Mukherjee
Kelly Lerner
One World Design
International Design and Consulting
El Cerrito, California, USA
options@..., 510-528-3765 phone, 510-528-8763 fax


Date: 14 Apr 1999 17:57:13 -0500
From: Ketsie@...
Subject: Re: GSBN: SB at Expo 2000 in Hannover

Hi folks,
Unfortunately this is no longer the case. In my excitement upon reading this
news I called Kris Wines, James Wines partner who I know from NYC design
groups and committees. Iam not sure they want all the details flying about
the universe, particularly since there is legal action pending but bottom
line is international politics, money and greed (not on the Wines part) have
derailed James design. Iam sure we will be reading more about this in the
design mags etc. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.


Darren Port
Green Logic Design


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