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-> Re: Strawbale versus Rammed Earth Help Wanted
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-> Re: Strawbale versus Rammed Earth Help Wanted
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Date: 26 Aug 1999 16:07:22 -0500
From: Huff and Puff Constructions <huffnpuff@...>
Subject: Re: Strawbale versus Rammed Earth Help Wanted

G'Day Strawbalers

I am in need of some bullets to fire on my quest to win our next
contract. I am up against rammed earth as the alternative. The budget
is generous but that is not the problem.

So where does straw bale compete with rammed earth apart from the better
insulation? Anyone on the lists help me sort this one out? The
environment is not an issue with the client he just wants a cool house
and he perceives that rammed earth will be better. However he is a
South Sydney supporter and an honest cove.

The building will be load bearing and some 2,500 sqaure feet. There is
an Architect involved, no names no pack drill. I wait for some help
from you addicted straw balers I would like to get one up on the
muddies! I lost to a muddie for the Steiner School in Bowral and I do
not want to lose this one for the profit that I make will go into the
building of the Office for Houses That Sing Down Under.HTSDO

I hope to have HTSDO in opperation early next year and I am looking for
the first project to do a la Casa Que Cantan Athena and Bill Steens'
wonderful project in Mexico. I am keen to find the area in Australia
that needs this unique way to approach shelter. A good friend of mine
thinks that we need to look after our street kids. I want to encourage
village life with NO mortgage for those young marrieds who are getting
ripped off by the Banks.

Thanks for listening! I will always be part of this list as long as it
continues to inspire me, by the way the 11th of May 2000 is a special
day for two reasons I will be 56 and India reaches ONE billion the
second country to reach this milestone.

Regards The Straw Wolf
Jacks Flat
10 Moore Street
GANMAIN NSW 2702
61 2 6927 6027
http://strawbale.archinet.com.au

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Date: 26 Aug 1999 18:30:26 -0500
From: Ecobruce@...
Subject: Re: Strawbale versus Rammed Earth Help Wanted


In a message dated 8/26/99 1:48:17 PM, John Glassford the Wolfman wrote:

>So where does straw bale compete with rammed earth apart from the better
>insulation? Anyone on the lists help me sort this one out?

Wolfdude -

Here in California where we add lots of cement and rebar and anxiety, rammed
earth is enormously more expensive then anything. People (wealthy San
Franciscans building wine country estates, mostly) use it anyway because its
gorgeous.

The insulation is a very big deal, as rammed earth can be cold in winter,
even with good solar design. Furthermore, you get all the thermal mass you
need with an inch or more (4 cm +) of plaster on the wall.

Go git those muddies.

PS: wish me luck, everyone. I'm flying to LA on Monday to pitch straw bale
to the hardest building department in the world (City of Los Angeles) for a
fabulously elegant public library. All while inwardly praying for our Judy
in Tucson.

Bruce Kingdude
209 Caledonia St.
Sausalito, CA 94965
(415) 331-7630
fax 332-4072
www.ecobuilding.com
ecobruce@...

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