Tuesday, November 2, 1999 5:02:24 PM
From: GSBN@...,Txinfinet Incoming
Subject: Digest for 11/2/99
-> SB Help in Saudia Arabia
by the black range <blackrange@...>
-> SB Shelter Brainstorm
by the black range <blackrange@...>


Date: 2 Nov 1999 09:50:44 -0600
From: the black range <blackrange@...>
Subject: SB Help in Saudia Arabia

Hi All,

This interesting message came via email yesterday. If anyone is eager to
connect with Saudi Arabia, feel free to pursue this. Please keep us
informed of the progress, though -- for The Last Straw.... Catherine

P.S. "The Straw Bale Solution" is showing in two film & video festivals
this coming weekend. One is the Santa Cruz EarthVision '99 festival,
where it's even getting a small award. The word of the work is spreading....

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>Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:00:47 -0800
>To: blackrange@...
>From: "Hamed Al-Shiekh" <h-shiekh@...> (by way of The Last Straw)
Subject: Straw Bale Construction
> October 31, 1999 To: NetWorksProduction, Inc.
Attn: Ms. Catherine Wanek

We have seen your videotape titled "The Straw Bale Solution" which was
narrated by Athena and Bill Steen. It featured interviews with architects,
engineers and owner-builders. We are planning to build a house in Saudi
Arabia using the straw bale construction method. The preliminary designs
have been finalized.&Bs; However, we need an architect who could provide
us with construction documents necessary to carry out the straw bale
construction. In addition, we need a
>builder to come to Saudi Arabia to give us training on straw bale
>construction.  We would appreciate it, therefore, if you could help
us identify names with their addresses that we could communicate on the two
matters under consideration namely construction drawings, and construction
training. Thank you in advance for your help.
Dr. Ziad A. Al-Sudairy
>P.O. Box 10071 Riyadh 11433 Saudi Arabia Phone: (01)-465-2457
>Fax:(01)-463-0846 E-mail: 


Date: 2 Nov 1999 21:44:32 -0600
From: the black range <blackrange@...>
Subject: SB Shelter Brainstorm

Dear Friends,

I wish to invite those interested to brainstorm on designs for emergency
straw-bale shelter.

Dates: Friday through Monday, December 3-6, 1999

at the Black Range Lodge in Kingston, NM

This will not be a building effort, more like a charrette. We would like
to come away from the long weekend with a product -- several viable plans
for emergency straw-bale shelter.

This idea has been hatching for a while, I hope I didn't wait too long to
get this invitation out widely. Matts Myhrman and Judy Knox, Athena and
Bill Steen, Steve MacDonald, Alfred Von Bachmayr, Janice Vascott, have
all put it on their schedule, along with a few others. Actually this
was Steve's idea, so I will insert his words next:

<center>S. O. MacDonald

P.O. Box 58

Gila, New Mexico 88038

(email address removed)

<underline>Invitation to the</underline>


As most of you may already know, Catherine, I and several others in the
straw-bale community have been sharing thoughts on how we might proceed
with some of the ideas and energy generated during our recent and
unsuccessful attempt to get into Kosovo to introduce straw-bale
construction technologies for emergency shelters, retrofits and repairs
in that war-torn place. Speaking for myself, our failure to pull it off
has left me sad and frustrated yet, on another level relieved. I'm sad
and frustrated because I know such work had the makings of being very
good work, however it played out on the ground; I'm relieved because it I
think it became clear that Kosovo wasn't ready for us and in retrospect
perhaps we weren't ready for Kosovo (or Turkey, Juarez, or any of the
many places around the globe that could benefit from what we know and
could offer).

How can we productively proceed then? An idea perking is to gather
together a dozen or so of you good folks at the Black Range Lodge in
Kingston NM the first week of December and with the help of a
facilitator, brainstorm our way toward the Light. Right now we're seeing
this as a visioning gathering to map out ways and means for taking
appropriate straw-bale technologies, including designs, to desperate
places like a Kosovo. Perhaps that will mean the creation of educational
materials in the form of booklets, videos, CD-ROMs, Websites, and the
like that we make available to appropriate relief agencies and
organizations and perhaps even for the do-it-yourself men and women on
the street. Perhaps we would want to follow the first brainstorming
gathering up with a training session (with educational video
opportunities) where we invite appropriate development folks and the like
from around the world. These are some preliminary thoughts anyway.

I think our getting together to figure things out would be very
worthwhile. How about you? One thing we would like to figure out in
advance of such a gathering is how to we might assist several of our
European colleagues so that they could join up with the rest of us.
Anyone sitting on some bucks out there?

Hope to see you all there.

Warm regards,

Stephen & Catherine


It will be Pete's & my pleasure to host this group, providing
accommodations and food. If you can pitch in with the cooking and
cleanup, that would be appreciated. Let me know if you have any special

Please don't feel left out if you can't come -- in fact, there would be
WAY TOO MANY if everybody came that deserves to be invited. But if you
have a strong feeling that you must come, then do.

If you would like to be involved in the effort, let us know and we will
make sure you are kept in the loop. If you have ideas, please share
them. I will probably be lurking around with a video camera, intending
to document what ever can be useful for the future.

I also imagine that the discussion will include a proposal to bring an
organized, experienced SB teaching team to an area of need, and
potentials for grant funding. Depending on the size of the gathering, we
will break up into interest groups.

I also expect we will need to plan a follow-up meeting for February next
year, or so.

I'll be away, returning Nov. 8th, but feel free to contact Steve
MacDonald, or send me an email and I'll return it next week.

Best regards to all,



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