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-> S-bscription Modes for SB-r-us + Universal access to GSBN archives
     by billc_lists@...
-> FW: inquirery on the role of strawbale on lowcost buildings
     by Joyce Coppinger thelaststraw@...
-> Re: GSBN:FW: inquirery on the role of strawbale on lowcost buildings
     by "Huff & Puff Construction" huffnpuff@...
-> Re: GSBN:Re: GSBN open to the world
     by Joyce Coppinger thelaststraw@...
-> Request for Info
     by Joyce Coppinger jc10508@...


Date: 20 Jan 2003 13:09:08 -0600
From: billc_lists@...
Subject: S-bscription Modes for SB-r-us + Universal access to GSBN archives

Note:  Rob sent this note yesterday, but because it had a list 
command (s-bscription) in the subject line, the list thought he was 
trying to s-bscribe and didn't post it.

- -> S-bscription Modes for SB-r-us + Universal access to GSBN archives
      by "Rob Tom" rw_tom@...

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 19 Jan 2003 11:48:49 -0600
From: "Rob Tom" rw_tom@...
Subject: S-bscription Modes for SB-r-us + Universal access to GSBN archives

Wild Bill-bob wrote:
>In the meantime, you can go to  http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/sb-r-us/ and
>sign up there (choose the "plain text" option to avoid getting the >Yahoo
>advertisements on every email), or send an email to SB-r-us-

I'd go one step further than Bill-bob and suggest that the busy people**
here opt for the "No Mail" option so as to avoid potential mailbox overload,
especially if you're not in the habit of checking your email several times
each day.

To read messages, one can simply look in on the SB-r-us archives  whenever
an opportunity presents itself and selectively read the ones that interest

For people like Paul who might forget to read SB-r-us messages unless they
are sent to their e-mailbox, perhaps it's a matter of starting a ritual
where one checks the SB-r-us List archive first thing Monday morning while
easing out of "WeekendBrain Mode" or it might be the last thing one does at
the end of the workweek ?

With the above option, one is still afforded all the "benefits" of
membership (provided that you have acquired a Yahoo ID***) without having
one's mailbox inundated.

On the issue of universal access to the GSBN archives:

"Posolutley ! Absitively! For sure ! "

After all, what good is good information about building with bales if that
information isn't accessible in a timely** manner to the non-WhiteHats who
need it ?

** Presumably the GSBN list exists because its members were too busy to wade
through the messages at the strawbale@...in order to find the
few nuggets that might be of interest to them.

*** People who had not acquired Yahoo IDs seemed to experience problems with
accessing member functions like posting/viewing photos in the PHOTO S
gallery, downloading from the FILES function, participating on the POLLS or
contributing to the DATABASE .
   --- * ---
Robert W. Tom
Kanata, Ontario, Canada

please visit:  http://www.theHungerSite.com daily

- -- 
Bill Christensen

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Sustainable Building Calendar: http://SustainableSources.com/calendar/
Green Real Estate: http://SustainableSources.com/realestate/
Straw Bale Registry: http://sbregistry.sustainablesources.com/
Books/videos/software: http://bookstore.sustainablesources.com/


Date: 20 Jan 2003 15:21:55 -0600
From: Joyce Coppinger thelaststraw@...
Subject: FW: inquirery on the role of strawbale on lowcost buildings

Anyone want to take this one on and send him a reply?  Thanks!

Joyce Coppinger

- ----------
From: adegbenga oshineye gbengaoshy@...
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 07:55:48 -0800 (PST)
To: thelaststraw@...
Subject: inquirery on the role of strawbale on lowcost buildings

                              Oshineye Gbenga
    No.14 Sani Street,
    P.O. Box 852
    Jos, Plateau State

The Last Straw
Hc 66,Box 119,
Hillsboro, Nw 88042 USA

Dear Sir,


My name is Oshineye Gbenga, my matriculation number is
UJ/2000/EV/0200. I am presently completing my B.Sc in
Architecture at the University of Jos, Plateau State,

I am writing a dissertation on the role of modern
building materials on low cost buildings using
straw-bale, am so interested in this material and I
would want to introduce the use of it in my country.
Could you please help me answer some questions?

1. What role does Straw bale play in low cost
buildings in terms of capital cost and maintenance
2. What is the availability of the materials, can it
be sourced locally in Nigeria?
3. Is Straw-bale adaptive to all weather?
4. What are the functional requirements of Straw-bale?
5. What are the limitations of Straw-bale in design
and construction?
6. What is the ease of construction in terms of time
and method of construction?
7. Could you please send me pictures of existing
buildings built with Straw-bale?
8. Could you also send me journals dated as far back
as 1995-2003, and other relevant materials that will
be of help to me?

Why I choose this topic is because low cost buildings
has since suffered undue treatment in the use of
material and maintenance, which causes discomforts and
negative social impact on the users.  Having a passion
for the built environment, I know this dissertation
will go a long way in enhancing social revitalisation
on the built environment.
Thank you for your anticipated co-operation and
soonest reply.

Oshineye Gbenga.

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Date: 20 Jan 2003 15:34:17 -0600
From: "Huff & Puff Construction" huffnpuff@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:FW: inquirery on the role of strawbale on lowcost buildings

Be careful of any Nigerian emails.

The Straw Wolf


Date: 20 Jan 2003 16:51:33 -0600
From: Joyce Coppinger thelaststraw@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Re: GSBN open to the world

Thanks, Bill.  The most current conversations on the GSBN would seem to be
what most people would be looking for if/when the archives are opened to the
public.  Some, of course, would want to see everything - just in case - but
some of the older stuff is/could perhaps be outdated by now anyway.


on 1/19/03 11:15 PM, billc_lists@...

> Those are at http://SustainableSources.com/gsbnarchives/ with ID= straw
> and password = bale.
> But it's not near as easy to skim through those archives, as they're
> basically html-ized digest files.  Pretty raw, and you can't see the
> subject lines without opening each one.
> I'm thinking that if/when we open the archives, we don't bother with
> the older stuff unless someone wants to take what's there (or what's
> in my Eudora mailbox) and re-work it so that it's more user friendly.
> The user-unfriendlyness is the primary reason I set up the Yahoo archiving.
>> What came up for me was only messages through November 2002 and the
>> between Chris & I wasn't in that time frame.  How do I get to older
>> - earlier in 2002.
>> Joyce
>> on 1/18/03 11:51 PM, billc_lists@...
>> billc_lists@...:
>>>> I can think of one or two rather embarassing exchange that Chris and I
>>>> inadvertently posted to SBN that I sure wouldn't want the world to see! 
>>>> could there be some discrete editing - so that the archives revealed to
>>>> masses would be on topics rather than personal exchanges.  There were
>>>> personal exchanges which might be excluded from the "open" archives.
>>> Yes, that's certainly possible.  I'd have to delete the entire
>>> message - I can't tweak them.
>>> Go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GSBN-Greenbuilder/ and sign in as
>>> user = gsbn123 and password = bale123 .  Let me know the number of
>>> the post(s) that should be deleted.
>>> I just did a quick run-through and deleted a couple of mis-directed posts.
>> ----
>> For instructions on joining, leaving, or otherwise using the GSBN
>> list, send email to GSBN@...HELP in the
>> SUBJECT line. 
>> ----


Date: 20 Jan 2003 17:11:07 -0600
From: Joyce Coppinger jc10508@...
Subject: Request for Info

This inquiry came to me via the SBAN web site.  Anyone want to take this one
on and reply?  


Joyce Coppinger

From: "Barbier" barbier@...
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:10:39 -0300
To: jc10508@...
Subject: a querry from the SBAN website


I am student of architecture in Argentina and I'm investigating the
strawbale's construction. I know that there is a strawbale proyect in
Argentina which is carried out by Kelly Lerner, but I don't have any
information about it. If you could informed me more about it I would
appreciate the information.


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