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-> Re: GSBN:Peruvian Lbrary Fund (Proposal)
     by Paul Lacinski paul@...
-> Re: GSBN:Re:Peruvian SB Library Fund
     by "chug." chug@...
-> Re: GSBN:Re:Peruvian SB Library Fund
     by "Andre_de_Bouter" m.ep@...
-> Re: GSBN:Re:Peruvian SB Library Fund
     by Paul Lacinski paul@...
-> Re: GSBN:Re:Peruvian SB Library Fund
     by "Andre_de_Bouter" m.ep@...


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Date: 22 Apr 2003 01:58:32 -0500
From: Paul Lacinski paul@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Peruvian Lbrary Fund (Proposal)

Rob,

I will add to Chris' donation with a copy of Serious Straw Bale. 
Maybe with these donated books, some of the money from the potential 
donation pool can be used to buy a subscription to The Last Straw?

Cheers,

Paul
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Paul Lacinski
Amy Klippenstein
GreenSpace Collaborative
Sidehill Farm
PO Box 107
463 Main St.
Ashfield, MA 01330 USA
01-413-628-3800


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Date: 22 Apr 2003 03:48:38 -0500
From: "chug." chug@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Re:Peruvian SB Library Fund

Hi Bill and baleheads
Apparently the Builders without Borders guides have been removed from the site
as they are in the process of updating
the material to make it better for international use(Using and translating) -I
know this as I enquired about it
recently, but surely these people in Peru need someone with experience to
actually teach them,(If they have access to
bales that is?) if they are to learn and build with bales, how many strawbale
builders have built using just books and
the web - most of us will have attended some form of workshop/course first to
learn what books and the web cannot teach
you.
In peace
Chug
chug@...
http://www.strawbale-building.co.uk/

- ----- Original Message -----
From: billc_lists@...
To: GSBN GSBN@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: GSBN:Re:Peruvian SB Library Fund

>>>>SNIPPED>>>>

And I'm pretty sure Builders Without Borders
(http://builderswithoutborders.org) had a spanish "how to" manual in
PDF, though I don't see it online.  Anyone have a clue on that one?



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Date: 22 Apr 2003 04:49:27 -0500
From: "Andre_de_Bouter" m.ep@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Re:Peruvian SB Library Fund

> It also occurred to me that the books might be of limited use since
> many of the people in need of housing probably can't read English and
> also, because many of the methods and materials mentioned in the
> books may simply not be available in Peru at low cost so it might be
> worthwhile having some of the artistically-inclined Listmembers put
> together a pictorial "How to build a simple SB House" manual (under
> the guidance of  explurts of course.)

* (as Rene Dalmijer suggested) Check the BWB website: That is exactly what
they have for download.
www.builderswithoutborders.org
English and Spanish versions are available. Lots of very clear (and
beautiful) drawings.
A french version is comming close to completion.

Amazon Nails site: (English doc)
http://www.strawbalefutures.org.uk/

I'm still working on a CD-romproject that will contain informative SB
websites, the BWB documents and ?

In India it became clear to me that books are great, but printing and
shipping costs are simply to high to really get that info to go everywhere.
I feel that CD-roms present us the opportunity to copy and sent a whole lot
more cost-effeciently. The documentation can then be viewed, & printed
locally. It can also be copied perfectly and endlessly for very little cost.
Only 'the man with the white beard' knows when I will be able to finish this
sideline CD-rom project. I invite you all to surpass my effort.

Good luck with your efforts,
Andre

La maison en paille


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Tom" rw_tom@...
To: GSBN@...
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:24 PM
Subject: GSBN:Re:Peruvian SB Library Fund


>
> --- In SB-r-us@...,  Athena & Bill Steen
> absteen@... wrote:
>
> >if you want, you can remove the SB Solution video along with The
> >Beauty of SB Houses from the list as we will donate them.
>
> Thank yee Beel.
>
> Aye, ye's a bonny lad after all, d'spite all the nasty things I've been
> telling people about you and that rascally, mescal-guzzling, hot chili-
> snarfing, gluttonous Canelo bunch .
>
> It had occurred to me that we might get the book authors (most of
> whom are on these Lists) such as yourself  to get after their publishers
> to donate the books but that would be unfair to the authors and the
> publishers since they'd be the only ones donating all the time since this
> sort of thing is bound to come up again and again and again.
>
> It also occurred to me that the books might be of limited use since
> many of the people in need of housing probably can't read English and
> also, because many of the methods and materials mentioned in the
> books may simply not be available in Peru at low cost so it might be
> worthwhile having some of the artistically-inclined Listmembers put
> together a pictorial "How to build a simple SB House" manual (under
> the guidance of  explurts of course.)
>
> Another thought was that it'd would probably be best if someone(s)
> with extensive experience in developing low-cost, appropriate-tech
> solutions could go down there and lead a workshop or three to get
> them started. (Makes more sense than bringing someone up for a
> workshop IMO.)
>
> Perhaps the frequent flyers amongst us could donate some of their Air
> Miles points to the purpose and thereby ease some of their guilt about
> the size of their ecological footprint .
>
>     ~~~ * ~~~
>          Rob Tom
>   Kanata, Ontario, Canada
> ArchiLogic@...
> (winnow the "chaff" from my edress in your reply)
>
>
>   --- * ---
> Robert W. Tom
> Kanata, Ontario, Canada
> rw_tom@...
>
> please visit:  http://www.theHungerSite.com daily
>
>
>
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Date: 22 Apr 2003 08:59:55 -0500
From: Paul Lacinski paul@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Re:Peruvian SB Library Fund

>
>Only 'the man with the white beard' knows when I will be able to finish this
>sideline CD-rom project. I invite you all to surpass my effort.


Andre-
How is it exactly that Matts knows when your CD-rom will be finished? 
It makes me wonder, what else does he know, that he's holding back 
from us?

Cheers,

Paul
- -- 
Paul Lacinski
Amy Klippenstein
GreenSpace Collaborative
Sidehill Farm
PO Box 107
463 Main St.
Ashfield, MA 01330 USA
01-413-628-3800


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Date: 22 Apr 2003 11:11:16 -0500
From: "Andre_de_Bouter" m.ep@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Re:Peruvian SB Library Fund

Hi Paul,

Matts does have the appropriate beard. I guess I should ask him my deadline.
But to state the (for me) obvious, I was refferring to Allah, God, Shiva or
whatever you prefer to call Him/Her/It.

Walking through the garden (trying to keep our son asleep until his mum
comes home with her prewarmed milk) I let my mind wander on this SB library:

Maybe we could get the authors (and their publishers) to donate one
SB-chapter each. Then compile this into a vritiual SB book on a CDrom and
bring it out in the same way I inted to bring our our CD-project (or better
yet, combine the two).
The Copyright statement I intend to use will allow evertbody to copy, and
even sell the CDrom, AS IS. (of course we will get Rob Tom to write a
disclaimer that asks the very happy future users of this CD to make a
donation to BWB).
The writers and publishers get publicity they deserve, the (so called) third
world (Children, students etc) gets access to our rich mans's info and we
would make use of the very strong human desire to copy and spread.

If someone wants to know more about our CD-rom project, read The Last
Straw's edition on Communities 'The community communicates'.

I also read Chug's email. I guess that the visual primers are not online at
the moment. Sure hope they come back soon. "New and Improved" I'm sure.


Bye,
Andre

Somebody please tell me if I got to deep into the Cognac and have started
wasting my braincells on silly, hippy, sharing, peace and evolution ideas.
I'll gladly drink my cup of clay to ritually cleanse myself.


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Lacinski" paul@...
To: "GSBN" GSBN@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: GSBN:Re:Peruvian SB Library Fund


> >
> >Only 'the man with the white beard' knows when I will be able to finish
this
> >sideline CD-rom project. I invite you all to surpass my effort.
>
>
> Andre-
> How is it exactly that Matts knows when your CD-rom will be finished?
> It makes me wonder, what else does he know, that he's holding back
> from us?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul
> --
> Paul Lacinski
> Amy Klippenstein
> GreenSpace Collaborative
> Sidehill Farm
> PO Box 107
> 463 Main St.
> Ashfield, MA 01330 USA
> 01-413-628-3800

>




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