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GSBN: Digest for 8/27/03

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-> RE: GSBN:SB Registry Insurance info
     by Strawnet@...
-> Open to the Public - TLS now updating
     by Joyce Coppinger jc10508@...
-> Straw Bale Mutual Insurance Co. ?
     by "Rob Tom" rw_tom@...


Date: 27 Aug 2003 09:25:38 -0500
From: Strawnet@...
Subject: RE: GSBN:SB Registry Insurance info

Hello all,

I've been silent for a while due to various commitments 
(overcommitments?) and lack of support but I want to let you know that 
I've been writing a couple of things related to State Farm and the 
insurance issue in general and just haven't had time to complete them. 
But they involve two approaches to this issue. First, a short-term direct 
response to State Farm (though I have low expectations for swaying their 
decision, they still need to be challenged on their assertions and claims 
about sb construction). I am writing a draft response that I intend to 
share as a starting point. We need to think strategically about who that 
letter should be coming from - perhaps a national or international 
coalition or pseudo-association - GSBN?

We might also think about warning them about restraint of trade issues 
and slander in relation to what they say and do publicly about a 
technology and budding industry that employs many people and has 
potentially enormous direct benefit to the insurance sector in its 
ability to address issues of global warming, climate change and the 
attendent risks they pose to the insurance underwriting industry 
worldwide), and that has been accepted by the building officials and 
other agencies in the States of California, Oregon, and the majority of 
building departments in Arizona, Colorado, Washington State, etc. 

The second piece is something I was embarked upon years ago which is 
making the bigger case that the insurance and reinsurance sectors are 
blocking precisely the kind of changes that their future depends on, 
given their risks related to climate change. There is a third thing that 
I'll just say is looking into socially and environmentally conscious 
insurance and financial funds for creating the kind of insurance agency 
that we actually need and could all suppport. 

I would write more but I have jury duty today and can't be late for it.  
Just a heads up that I'm squeezing this into my already insane schedule 
because I think I have some insights into ways to address this that might 
help at least deal with the mid to long term aspects. 



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Date: 27 Aug 2003 10:46:41 -0500
From: Joyce Coppinger jc10508@...
Subject: Open to the Public - TLS now updating

Hello everyone,

We at The Last Straw are currently working on an update of the "Open to the
Public" list of residential and commercial buildings worldwide. In addition
to entries we can identify from the International SB Registry, we hope you
will help spread the word for us, and also identify any buildings you know
of - past and present.

The description of the building should include square footage, s.f. costs
(if available), special features or design considerations. Full contact
information (person to contact, business name/if appropriate, mailing
address, phone/fax, email, web site) is needed, as well. For commercial
sites, a brief note about the business might be interesting to include, too.

We will be glad to follow-up on contacts you provide for us and visit web
sites you recommend, but if you have descriptive information, that's very
helpful too!

We would appreciate hearing from you by the end of September.  Thanks for
all your assistance and support!

Joyce Coppinger
Managing Editor/TLS


Date: 27 Aug 2003 12:07:29 -0500
From: "Rob Tom" rw_tom@...
Subject: Straw Bale Mutual Insurance Co. ?

Just a ran-dumb thought regarding this insurance hub-bub ...

I haven't looked at the stats lately but I'm wondering if there are enough 
SBH and SB enthusiasts around the world to create a "Straw Bale Mutual 
Insurance Company" whereby we put some of our spare cash into an aggregate 
fund which is ostensibly intended to "insure" SBH for official purposes but 
in reality, it would just be a place to temporarily stash money which if 
invested wisely would yield the same returns (or more)  as any other 
conservative investment.

Is there a minimum required before a group can be recognised as an  insurer 
for official purposes ? Would $5 million suffice ?  (ie Quick wild-@$$ 
guesstimate ... 1000 baleheads globally, each with $5k to invest)

Since it would be a puny company it would have to be very rigorous in it's 
inspections & conditions but I think that's a Good Thing all around.

If we as a community aren't willing  take the risk, then can we really 
expect the Usurers to do so ?

- --- * ---
Robert W. Tom
Kanata, Ontario, Canada

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