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-> The Unofficial Hot-Topic of Straw Bale Building anno 2004 ?!?      /      
ISBBC 2004.
     by "Lars Keller" larskeller@...
-> Re: GSBN:The Unofficial Hot-Topic of Straw Bale Building anno 2004 ?!?     
/       ISBBC 2004.
     by huffnpuff huffnpuff@...
-> RE: GSBN:The Unofficial Hot-Topic of Straw Bale Building anno 2004 ?!?     
/       ISBBC 2004.
     by jeff@...


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Date: 18 Mar 2004 17:39:54 -0600
From: "Lars Keller" larskeller@...
Subject: The Unofficial Hot-Topic of Straw Bale Building anno 2004 ?!?      / 
     ISBBC 2004.

Dear GSBN-reader:

I would like your thoughts regarding a potential forum at the upcoming ISBBC
in Denmark this June.

It has been pointed out from several persons that at conferences there often
seems to be one or two issues puzzling the subconscious mind of us all.

At earlier conferences we have sensed issues such as "wall foot details",
"earth render", "size (small)", "prefered wall 
structure (mainstream versus eco)".

So: what is today's hot issue in your neck of the woods ?

Kind regards
ISBBC / Lars Keller


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Date: 18 Mar 2004 18:18:50 -0600
From: huffnpuff huffnpuff@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:The Unofficial Hot-Topic of Straw Bale Building anno 2004
?!?      /       ISBBC 2004.

G 'day Lars

1.  My hot topic is and always will be size and sustainability.

Why use timber or steel for a frame when the bales have proven time and 
time again that they are quite capable of load bearing roofs?  Why do we 
in the developed world want such large homes?  It is simply not on 
anymore but still we get plans over our desk of very large straw bale 
homes mainly from Architects.

 The use of load bearing jumbo bales could help some of these people, as 
we have done.  However the foot print for a jumbo bale building is still 
as big as a large straw bale in-fill SB building.  Therefore unsustainable.

2.  Second hot topic is when will straw bale buildings become accepted 
by main stream builders?  How is this going to happen?  What has to be 
changed for main stream builders to take on straw bale building full 
time?  Is it a government driven thing?  Should there be legislation to 
make architects, owners and builders to use sustainable design and 
materials in their building?

It is all very well and encouraging for the grass roots builders and 
99.999% of these are owner builders to build in straw but if we are fair 
dinkum about the environment it is our duty to make governments and 
architects and planners aware of what their decision in their choice of 
material has on the built environment.

Still trying to get to ISBBC 2004 but it is a long shot now as both 
Susan and I will be going to South Africa for Mama Amelia, which is my 
top priority for 2004/5.

Hope you enjoyed Adelaide.

Salaams John.




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Date: 18 Mar 2004 20:03:38 -0600
From: jeff@...
Subject: RE: GSBN:The Unofficial Hot-Topic of Straw Bale Building anno 2004
?!?      /       ISBBC 2004.

Lars,

I would have to agree (partially) with John on this one.  The big house
issue, I think, is a mute point.  This will take a much larger social
conscience shift - one way out of our control.  However, his points made
about main-stream builder are deeply felt.  I don't think it will take
legislation, but a thorough education for these builders before they
risk large dollars on projects.  Simple as that!  Who is going to do it?


One of my "hot topics" is dealing with SB in the mainstream.  In fact, I
think the movement towards earth plasters has slowed acceptance because
now mostly what new SB builders read is that cement plaster is BAD, but
they have little or no resources available in this regard.  Know anyone
in Limon, Colorado who does earthen plaster that is inexpensive?!  I
know the implications of using a cement-based plaster system, and
believe there are better and worse projects on which to use it.  The
same goes for earth plaster, lime, wood frames, steel frames, roof
systems, foundations, etc.  I would like to see a balanced discussion of
ALL the alternatives - not just earth, and that anything else is less
superior.  The fact of the matter is, approval agencies are familiar
with cement-based products, and we would see MUCH less SB building
activity if it were not acceptable.

Even though this may sound anti-earth, I am presently working on earthen
plaster projects.  I think it is superior with the exception of strength
and maintenance, but how do we educate and offer it as an option to even
more people?  Only time will tell, I guess.

Jeff Ruppert, P.E.
Principal

Odisea  LLC
Structural/Civil Engineering, Straw Bale Consulting, Construction
Services
2241 17th St.
Boulder, CO  80302
303.443.4335 o
303.443.4355 f
303.881.2905 c
jeff@...
www.odiseanet.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: GSBN [mailto:GSBN@...] On Behalf Of Lars
Keller
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:03 AM
> To: Global Straw Bale Network
> Subject: GSBN:The Unofficial Hot-Topic of Straw Bale Building anno
2004
> ?!? / ISBBC 2004.
> 
> Dear GSBN-reader:
> 
> I would like your thoughts regarding a potential forum at the upcoming
> ISBBC in Denmark this June.
> 
> It has been pointed out from several persons that at conferences there
> often seems to be one or two issues puzzling the subconscious mind of
us
> all.
> 
> At earlier conferences we have sensed issues such as "wall foot
details",
> "earth render", "size (small)", "prefered wall
> structure (mainstream versus eco)".
> 
> So: what is today's hot issue in your neck of the woods ?
> 
> Kind regards
> ISBBC / Lars Keller
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