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-> Re: [Strawbale]SB critters and how to get rid of them?
     by "Chug." chug@...
-> Finding Outlets
     by jeff@...
-> Re: GSBN:SB critters, how to get rid of them
     by "PH Bernard" imagine@...
-> RE: GSBN:Finding Outlets
     by "Bob Bolles" Bob@...
-> Sustainable Building Design & Construction Curriculum
     by Chris Magwood TLSEditor@...


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Date: 11 May 2004 02:55:08 -0600
From: "Chug." chug@...
Subject: Re: [Strawbale]SB critters and how to get rid of them?

Andre,

I have been looking into this as I was bored yesterday and it seems that
they are quite common during first warm weather after new
plastering/rendering work, and they are not just found in SB houses, any
house with the dampness from plaster drying out is susceptible, once the
plaster has fully dried out they usually dissapear.

There is also a pdf file in the SB-r-us website called Bugs-r-us posted by
Rob Tom,

bale on
Chug
chug@...
www.strawbale-building.co.uk/
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Date: 11 May 2004 18:59:15 -0600
From: jeff@...
Subject: Finding Outlets


So here is a more practical question.  Anyone have an efficient way of
finding buried electrical outlets (post-plaster)?  I know this seems
basic, but we lose one every other project or so.  Thought I would
lighten things up!  Any tricks to share?

Jeff Ruppert, P.E.
Principal

Odisea  LLC
Structural/Civil Engineering, Straw Bale Consulting, Construction
Services
2241 17th St.
Boulder, CO  80302
303.443.4335 o
303.443.4355 f
303.881.2905 c
jeff@...
www.odiseanet.com





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Date: 11 May 2004 19:33:53 -0600
From: "PH Bernard" imagine@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:SB critters, how to get rid of them

Hi All,
We have found this to be normal occurence after a house is finished, and
humans move in, that these small critters appear.
They do it for just a little while, and only once, and have never
re-appeared. So although its concerning to the owner who has just moved in
to their new home, we can re-assure them that the bugs are not an ongoing
problem.

Best Regards,
Helen & Per Bernard
Australia

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "m.ep" m.ep@...
To: "GSBN" GSBN@...
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:00 PM
Subject: GSBN:SB critters, how to get rid of them


Dear SB friends,

Erica Sapir, an english lady that lives in France, build her SB house last
year but now has some uninvited guests. We don't yet know what they are but
she'd like to know and most of all, how to get rid of them. (Personally I'd
also like to know how they got there)

Below you find her description, my questions and her replies.
All suggestions are welcome.

Bye,
Andre

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Erica:
.... and a straw bale house I did build,  with Jacques Gratiet,  and Jacques
Bon, from Brittany both of them. I am living in it already from last March,
and doing the finishing touches (but it still needs a last coat on the
exterior).
It is a good and beautiful home. However, from about a month I have an
invasion of tiny insects that make their home at the edges between the
plastered walls and the tiled floor.... They produce, or come from, a sort
of powdery brownish stuff, and then they become tiny white dots, hardly
visible by the naked eye, and then, I suppose they become tiny insects like
a kind of lice...
Have you ever met such a thing? do you have an idea of what it can be?

What type of plasters (inside & outside)
If lime is used, what type "hydraulique" et/ou "aerienne"?
Erica: The plaster is "chaux hydraulique" and then "chaux aerienne" The
second layer was finished in December, but inside there are three layers,
finished in December as well, and the "beasts" are inside the house, not
outside, as far as I can see., and they are not in places like the attic,
where there is only one rough layer, or where there is a "window of truth"
to show the straw....

Were the bales very dry before stacking the walls?
Erica: Yes, we got them in August, and there was no rain, all the time. and
they were stacked inside the house.

Are the bales still dry (did you check by making a hole in the plaster?)
Are there any left over bales? Do they have the same critters?
Any other organic material used (in wall roof or other)
 Erica: I didnt check if they are still dry, and the critters are only along
the floor, inside.
On the roof, I have mutton wool insulation, but there is no problem there.

Can you sent me a picture (small file size or by post) of the critters
Can you give a precise description
How long after construction did they appear? What was the weather like?
Do they keep on coming or was it only once that they came out.
Erica: I sent a box full of "the critters" to a office of home hygiene, but
he does not yet have an answer...
They appeared in March; actually, the theory of Jacques, is that they were
organisms dormant in the straw, and they come out with the spring. He had
some kind of moths, which disappeared after he wacoom cleaned...
Mine come again and again, but maybe a little less now. I must confess, that
in desperation, I sprayed them with some ant-poison. (yes I am ashamed of
myself). But there are still lots of them. They are tiny, like
"puces"(Fleas), and some, or all, have wings. They dont bite, nor jump, but
they are surely hardy....and  the brownish  powdery stuff which comes with
them, have a peculiar smell. It is a mystery; nobody seems to know what it
is.

Post and beam in the SB walls or only straw?
Erica: The house is Post and beam, and we used "pin douglas" as wood.

Well, thank you for your help. Maybe somebody in the list will have an
idea????

Kind greetings,
Erica.


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Date: 11 May 2004 20:41:01 -0600
From: "Bob Bolles" Bob@...
Subject: RE: GSBN:Finding Outlets

Ho help in finding them, sorry Jeff.
But to keep from loosing them in the future, instead of covering the
outlet, wrap around the perimeter as normal, but extend the wires out,
and tape them. This way the box is still covered but the wires protrude
from each box and never to be lost again.
bb

Bob Bolles
Sustainable Building Systems
Bob@...
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From: GSBN [<a  target="_blank" href="mailto:GSBN@...";>mailto:GSBN@...] On Behalf Of Jeff
Ruppert
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:49 PM
To: 'GSBN'
Subject: GSBN:Finding Outlets


So here is a more practical question.  Anyone have an efficient way of
finding buried electrical outlets (post-plaster)?  I know this seems
basic, but we lose one every other project or so.  Thought I would
lighten things up!  Any tricks to share?

Jeff Ruppert, P.E.
Principal

Odisea  LLC
Structural/Civil Engineering, Straw Bale Consulting, Construction
Services
2241 17th St.
Boulder, CO  80302
303.443.4335 o
303.443.4355 f
303.881.2905 c
jeff@...
www.odiseanet.com



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Date: 11 May 2004 22:14:49 -0600
From: Chris Magwood TLSEditor@...
Subject: Sustainable Building Design &amp; Construction Curriculum

Hello All,

I'm writing to you because I have just finished the lengthy (and 
sometimes frustrating!) process of writing a draft curriculum for a 
college-level program on sustainable building design and 
construction, tentatively and creatively called "Sustainable Building 
Design and Construction." It is an intensive, 20-week, 
certificate-level program to be offered at Sir Sandford Fleming 
College here in Ontario. A few folks at the college have really stuck 
their necks out and supported the development of this course, and now 
we have to go face the bigwigs at the Ministry of Education who will 
decide whether or not such a program should be offered and funded.

A part of our submission to the Ministry includes letters of support 
from "the industry." If any of you "industry types" (ie, anybody 
who's ever made a buck at this stuff!) would be interested in reading 
the draft curriculum outline and, if it seems worthy of support, 
write a letter, I'd be glad to forward you the document for your 
viewing pleasure. I'm putting it out to the GSBN because there's 
nothing that impresses Canadians more than having people from bigger 
and better countries endorse something that might just happen here in 
our own colony.

A good chunk of the document is language that the province requires 
in all program submissions, so if you skip through the boring stuff 
and check out the actual content, it's a pretty quick read.

We're on a bit of tight deadline, as our meeting with the provincial 
officials is next week. Letters would have to be received (via email 
is fine, emailed PDFs on letterhead are even better) by May 17th at 
the latest. I know that's short notice at a busy time of the year, 
but if even a couple GSBNers had the time, it would sure be great to 
have your support.

Please respond directly to me at cmagwood@... if you'd like me 
to send the document your way.

Pillaging and plundering of the curriculum for your own purposes is 
entirely okay with me.

Cheers,

Chris
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