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Re: GSBN:Re: Proposal



I don't know Hank Carr so I defer to the group -
however I would strongly support Kim Thompson and
Habib being added to the list.

Maurice Bennett
CASBA


--- Catherine Wanek blackrange@... wrote:

> I go along with the consensus so far about not
> adding Hank Carr to the GSBN
> -- at least for the time being.  Ontario is
> currently amply and well
> represented on this list.
>
> As for Kim Thompson -- it happens she was just
> visiting here at the Black
> Range, and we discussed the GSBN.  She was actually
> on the list at the
> beginning of the GSBN, but dropped off due to time
> constraints.  However,
> now I think she might be persuaded to come back.
>
> Rob T -- let me suggest that you contact Kim T. to
> invite her back.  I
> expect that we would have total agreement to having
> Kim back on this list.
>
> As for Habib Gonzales, I feel sure that he must have
> been on the list from
> the beginning too -- he's so very respected for his
> strawbale work.  I will
> contact him about it.
>
> As for archives being open to the ether, I favor a
> snipped version (via
> Bill C's august judgement) that edits anything
> potentially hurtful .   That
> said, ideally the collective wisdom expressed on
> this list will continue to
> make its way in a condensed form into the pages of
> The Last Straw
> Journal.    Perhaps we should require anyone who
> wants to view the GSBN
> archives, first be a subscriber to TLS .......;-)
>
> Happy solstice to you all,
> Catherine
>
> At 12:51 AM 12/16/04 -0600, you wrote:
> >The discussion on the list about the inclusion of
> Hank Carr has brought out
> >many important points about the purpose of the
> GSBN, the importance of
> >representation from each geographical area or
> network, and the contributions
> >of its participants.  I agree with Bill C's
> comments below that we not
> >invite him to join GSBN and recommend that we
> include Kim Thompson from Nova
> >Scotia.
> >
> >Joyce
> >
> >on 12.15.2004 1:14 PM, billc_lists@...
> at
> >billc_lists@...:
> >
> > > At 1:17 PM -0500 12/15/04, Judyknox42@...
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> What we do think is crucial is that there is a
> > >> participant from each geographical area or
> network that makes sure
> > >> information is being passed on to others in
> that area.  But beyond
> > >> that, we are much
> > >> more interested in the quality of the
> contributions participants make to a
> > >> free-flowing dialogue.  None of us want the
> GSBN to turn into a chat room,
> > >> and
> > >> should that begin to happen, we need to address
> it.
> > >
> > >
> > >> ...The quality and content of a free-flowing
> dialogue that helps us
> > >> all move forward in our work is the point.
> > >> We don't know Hank, but have no reason not to
> welcome him if other
> > members of
> > > the GSBN feel he can contribute at that level.
> > >
> > > I agree wholeheartedly with Judy's point that we
> don't need to
> > > restrict ourselves to some quota from different
> locations (though I'd
> > > certainly like to see more representation from
> certain areas of the
> > > world), and that what really matters is the
> quality and content of
> > > discussion.
> > >
> > > That said, another list member's comments to me
> offline and presented
> > > here anonymously:
> > >
> > > "The question of Hank is less clear. Obviously
> he's a busy and
> > > dedicated person with the best intentions, but
> he scares me in the
> > > same way that a certain couple of guys in
> Minnesota used to scare me.
> > > (You'll recall that one of their projects - a
> very well-intended but
> > > excruciatingly-flawed SB house built in south
> Minneapolis - ended up
> > > torn down a couple years later because of
> moisture problems. They
> > > ignored hard-won consensus- and
> experience-derived wisdom and best
> > > practices of the SB community, preferring to
> "pioneer" techniques and
> > > designs that relied on flawed assumptions and
> poor judgement.
> > > Eventually they posted a message on their
> website saying that they
> > > didn't have anything to do with strawbale
> anymore; and now their
> > > website appears to be gone completely.) While I
> can't deny that Hank
> > > is moving and shaking, I'm not comfortable that
> he's not a bull in a
> > > china shop. Where SB is concerned, when having a
> vision blurs with
> > > solipsism, I cringe. But then again, maybe his
> apparent belligerence
> > > would be tempered in the presence of the august
> GSBNers. If it comes
> > > down to a choice between RT and him, I'd choose
> RT in a heartbeat."
> > >
> > >
> > > (billc again)
> > > Rob has been the most vocal in his opposition to
> having Hank join,
> > > but several others who know him through list
> discussions or otherwise
> > > have some reservations.  I suggest that unless
> we get some strong
> > > arguments from people who are familiar with Hank
> and feel that his
> > > inclusion in the list would be a positive thing
> overall, that we
> > > don't invite him to join GSBN at present.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bill Christensen
> > > <<a  target="_blank" href="http://sustainablesources.com/contact/";>http://sustainablesources.com/contact/</a>>
> > >
> > > Green Building Professionals Directory:
> <<a  target="_blank" href="http://directory.sustainablesources.com";>http://directory.sustainablesources.com</a>>
> > > Sustainable Building Calendar:
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> > > Green Real Estate:
> <<a  target="_blank" href="http://SustainableSources.com/realestate/";>http://SustainableSources.com/realestate/</a>>
> > > Straw Bale Registry:
> <<a  target="_blank" href="http://sbregistry.sustainablesources.com/";>http://sbregistry.sustainablesources.com/</a>>
> > > Books/videos/software:
> <<a  target="_blank" href="http://bookstore.sustainablesources.com/";>http://bookstore.sustainablesources.com/</a>>
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> individuals and representatives of
> > > regional straw construction organizations. The
> costs of operating this list
> > > are underwritten by The Last Straw Journal in
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> > GSBN as
> > > an advisory board and technical editing arm.
> > >
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> > send
> > > email to GSBN@...
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> and representatives of
> >regional straw construction organizations. The
> costs of operating this
> >list are underwritten by The Last Straw Journal in
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> arm.
> >
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Maurice and Joy Bennett


You must be the change you want to see in the world.   Gandhi




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