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-> Re: GSBN:Re: Confusion about GSBN
     by Joyce Coppinger jc10508@...
-> Re: GSBN:European SB Code (was Translation of the By og Byg ...)
     by "moehlmann" moehlmann@...
-> RE: GSBN:List of Members
     by "Nehemiah  Stone" stoneandstraw@...
-> Re: GSBN:List of Members
     by billc_lists@...
-> Re: GSBN:Re: Confusion about GSBN
     by Chris Magwood cmagwood@...


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Date: 17 Feb 2006 23:47:19 -0600
From: Joyce Coppinger jc10508@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Re: Confusion about GSBN

There was confusion about the email exchanges and I was just trying to find
out about what was meant by organizing resources. I'll wait to learn more
through your vision statement.

Joyce


on 2.17.2006 2:51 PM, Duncan Lithgow at duncan@...:

> Since this email is partly about the purpose of the GSBN list, I've also
> sent it there.
>
> On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 08:48 -0600, Joyce Coppinger wrote:
>> Duncan,
>>
>> I think there may be some confusion about your email wanting to join the
>> discussion of what the best way is to organise resources so people can find
>> them easily when they are new in this world of sb building.
>>
>> I don't know what list your message was posted to but Dirk is not the
>> moderator of the GSBN. Bill Christensen is moderator and the list is an
>> invitation-only forum of key individuals and representatives of regional
>> straw construction organizations.
> Yes, I know. The email and was sent to Bill and copied to Dirk. Some
> people from the list wanted me to translate some Danish test results,
> Dirk contacted me, so I emailed Bill and copied it to Dirk.
>
>> The costs of operating this list are
>> underwritten by The Last Straw Journal in exchange for use of the GSBN as
an
>> advisory board and technical editing arm. The discussions are usually
>> centered on technologies and technical aspects of straw-bale building. See
>> full description below. It is not intended to be an all inclusive group but
>> more focused on discuss of ideas that could represent significant changes
in
>> best practices before disseminating them as a thoroughly considered
>> presentation in more widely attended and - without wanting to sound
>> demeaning - typically less knowledgeable forums.
> I know, I've read the stuff Bill sent me. Is there a problem with me
> being on the list?
>
>> What specifically are you trying to accomplish and how can we work together
>> to accomplish our mutual goals?
> I stared answering this part of your email but changed my mind. I'm
> instead putting some time into writing a 'vision statement' for the CD -
> when it's roughly finished I'll let you know.
>
> Duncan
>
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Date: 18 Feb 2006 08:31:26 -0600
From: "moehlmann" moehlmann@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:European SB Code (was Translation of the By og Byg ...)

Dear Andre, dear all,

coming back from the building site during the week its lovely to read fresh
food and reflections on codes in France and Europe.

I would go for Europe directly. This however needs a proper funding and an
international working groep which is also partly funded by that budget.

If Robert Wimmer, Dirk Scharmer, Andre (or someone with a specialised
background), someone from Denmark, Netherlands (Rene?), Belgium (Herwig van
Zoom?), the UK would join it could be rather succesful.

For funding it is indeed helpful to talk with people who did similar funding
and to talk with your information office of the EU in your capital city.
They do know everything about updated funding possiblities.

It will be a timeconsuming, but interesting quest and like Martin Hammer put
it, there are many facets which need to be in balance, rather a birth...

Normally you need to get some business involved for co-financing, but we
don't have financial succesful sb companies around yet. On the other hand if
each country could attract some funding from a greenminded organisation,
this would be excellent. Arguments to have sb-techniques implemented on a
large scale are meeting those of reducing CO2 reduction.

If we calculate the CO2 reduction a strawbale house provides for building
and more for longterm use, we have great tools to meet an energy crises for
housing. Our house in Plozevet with strawbale insulation on the roof rarely
needs energy (a maximum of 3 hours a day of heating with a woodstove is
enough during wintertime). We dropped our plans to branch floor heating. Its
not necessary....

Well so if Europe would support the use of straw as building material (there
is enough) it would be excellent.

Techniques: we have techniques for wet and dry climates, loadbaring and non
loadbearing. Its quite a job to boil this down into professional manuals for
small enterprises. But its possible. And it needs funding to work it out.

Yeah Andre: go for it!

Best wishes, Martin












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Date: 18 Feb 2006 09:07:45 -0600
From: "Nehemiah  Stone" stoneandstraw@...
Subject: RE: GSBN:List of Members

I did not see any list attached.
Nehemiah

- -----Original Message-----
From: GSBN [<a  target="_blank" href="mailto:GSBN@...";>mailto:GSBN@...] On Behalf Of Joyce Coppinger
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:34 PM
To: GSBN
Subject: GSBN:List of Members

As a reminder of the GSBN member list, and because I have been wanting to do
this for some time, I created a spreadsheet of current members (see
attached). The document is currently sorted by country, state, and name
(first name as I didn't take the time to separate first and last).

Hope it will be helpful to everyone on the list.

Joyce
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Date: 18 Feb 2006 09:27:24 -0600
From: billc_lists@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:List of Members

At 2:33 PM -0600 2/17/06, Joyce Coppinger wrote:
>As a reminder of the GSBN member list, and because I have been wanting to do
>this for some time, I created a spreadsheet of current members (see
>attached). The document is currently sorted by country, state, and name
>(first name as I didn't take the time to separate first and last).
>
>Hope it will be helpful to everyone on the list.

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Date: 18 Feb 2006 11:25:43 -0600
From: Chris Magwood cmagwood@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Re: Confusion about GSBN

Testing, codes, and planning...

I'm hoping that most of you reading about all these testing, codes
and global organizing issues are planning on coming to the ISBBC in
September. A whole stream of programing has been planned to address
these kinds of issues, and there are already commitments from lots of
the key players to be at the ISBBC. I know that lots can be
accomplished via lists and email, but I also think there's nothing
like spending focused time together to establish a kind of long-term
plan and network.

I am truly hoping that out of the ISBBC can come something along the
lines of a "five year plan" that involves all of us who spend our
time testing, codifying and strategizing toward the goal of
incorporating straw bale into the greater building world. Don't want
to sound like a pitch-man, but the conference is affordable ($500
Canadian) and a great place to coherently set to work on a plan that
makes the best use of all the great brains (and some great bodies!)
involved in SB.

Chris




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