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-> Re: GSBN:PROPOSAL: electronic bulletin
     by "Chug." chug@...
-> Re: FW: straw animal sheds and/or houses
     by Kelly Lerner klerner@...
-> Fwd: Mongolia, Russia, Eastern Europe, Middle East, Africa
     by Mark Piepkorn mark@...
-> Re: GSBN:PROPOSAL: electronic bulletin
     by "Andre de Bouter" forum@...
-> Re: GSBN:Fwd: Mongolia, Russia, Eastern Europe, Middle East, Africa
     by duncan@...


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Date: 6 Mar 2006 04:39:01 -0600
From: "Chug." chug@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:PROPOSAL: electronic bulletin

Hi Duncan

I'm going with the flow and saying yes.

bale on
Chug
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From: "Duncan Lithgow" duncan@...
To: "GSBN" GSBN@...
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 6:24 PM
Subject: GSBN:PROPOSAL: electronic bulletin


I'm making this look a bit formal as I want to gauge peoples real
opinion on it. Please say yes or no if you have an opinion, I'd rather
people say 'no' if they can't see the point of it or wouldn't bother
sending things to it. It would save me some time and it's never good
starting something which turns out to be a waste of energy.

== What is it? ==
An email sent out once a month (fortnight/week depending on interest and
volume). The email contains whatever supporters would like other SB'ers
to know about.

== Why do it? ==
Not everyone wants to spend ages reading discussions on several lists,
but some of them would still quite like to know what is going on in SB
world.

The other reason is that much can be gained from some overarching
projects. The Last Straw is the main journal of the SB world, this would
be like the electronic noticeboard of the SB world.

== How would it work? ==
In short:
1. anyone, subscribed or not, sends their notices to the list.
2. once a month the editor(s) forms the notices into one email and this
is sent out to anyone subscribed.

Technically it would be an email list, functionally it is a one way
announcement list sent out to anyone who is subscribed to the list.
There would be no discussions on the list (except between editors). The
editor(s) would clean up what they've been sent and send it out as a
bulletin. Anyone especially interested in what is being sent to the
editors for 'consideration' (almost everything would go through) could
take a look at the public archive of 'submissions'.

== When does this happen? ==
I suggest this list give it a yes/no by the 14th March. If the answer is
yes, we ask for comment from all the lists we know of, and I'll take it
from there.

Duncan

== An example of this electronic bulletin thing ==
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If you have something you'd like included send a short summary, a title
and link to: sb-announcements@...

Editors note: We would really love to hear more about xyz type projects,
please let us know.

On the March noticeboard:
1. Technical Issues
2. Learning Resources
3. What's on Worldwide

= 1. Technical issues =
== New German moisture report ==
The good people at the german sb association tell us that they have just
finished a report called 'What about spilt beer?' looking at the impact
of drunken parties on the health of Straw Bale walls.
<<a  target="_blank" href="http://munich-beer-festival/archive/straw-bale-parties.html";>http://munich-beer-festival/archive/straw-bale-parties.html</a>>

== My house burn down! ==
"Sadly my unfinished house has burnt down as it was left unplastered. I,
Paul the Pyromaniachs describe in this article how the fire took hold
and how to avoid it happening to you."
<<a  target="_blank" href="http://pyro-paul/my-house-is-gone.pdf";>http://pyro-paul/my-house-is-gone.pdf</a>>

= 2. Learning Resources =
== The Last Straw ==
"TLS is happy to announce that the CD of back issues is finished. If
you've ordered one you should get it soon. If you don't know what this
is about then come and visit the website."
<<a  target="_blank" href="http://tls.com/resources/backcatalogue-on-cd.html";>http://tls.com/resources/backcatalogue-on-cd.html</a>>

== Wikibook on Straw Bale Construction updated ==
"The wikibook team has just finished revising the section on
foundations. Now we're looking for input on the Roofing Options section.
Check it out and lend a hand."
<<a  target="_blank" href="http://wikibooks.org/Straw_Bale_Construction";>http://wikibooks.org/Straw_Bale_Construction</a>>

= 3. What's on =
== Hands for knowledge site updated ==
"Well another summer is approaching and we've got lots of people looking
for volunteers to help with their houses. Come and see if there's
something you'd like to be part of." (Europe only)
<http:/you get the idea
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GSBN is an invitation-only forum of key individuals and representatives of
regional straw construction organizations. The costs of
operating this list are underwritten by The Last Straw Journal in exchange for
use of the GSBN as an advisory board and technical
editing arm.

For instructions on joining, leaving, or otherwise using the GSBN list, send
email to GSBN@...HELP in the
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Date: 6 Mar 2006 11:02:39 -0600
From: Kelly Lerner klerner@...
Subject: Re: FW: straw animal sheds and/or houses

Hi Tim,
Straw-bale is a great building material for housing both animals and
people. Load-bearing walls can be constructed of straw bales or of
straw-rich adobe type blocks (if that is closer to the vernacular building
tradition). Straw bale walls must be covered with a plaster (a clay earth
will do) to protect it from animals.  I know one builder who is actually
planning on a straw-bale project in Pakistan - Greg Zaller
gregzaller@.... I believe he will be there in April. It sounds
like it would be good for you'all to connect. Good luck.

Kelly
>From: Tim Tim.Vaessen@...
>Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 15:29:16 +0430
>To: thelaststraw@...
>Subject: straw animal sheds and/or houses
>
>Hi there,
>
>Just a wild shot, but I am looking for somebody who could give me some
>general idea about the possibility of cheap, easy to build sheds for farm
>animals in the earthquake zone of Pakistan. Traditionally many farmers
>make sheds of thick walls and roofs of clay to keep the cold out in winter.
>What would be the possibility of constructing easily, quickly and cheaply
>well isolated animal sheds of straw or other natural resources? And while
>we are at it, what about houses for the farmers themselves?
>One issue is ofcourse that we would not want the animals to eat the walls.
>
>Could you connect me with somebody?
>Kind regards
>
>
>
>
>
>Tim Vaessen, Sr. Emergency and Rehabilitation Coordinator
>FAO Pakistan/Afghanistan;Tel.PAK:92(0)300 501 5527; AFG:93(0)70 285266
>
>
>
>
>

*****************************************************
Kelly Lerner, Architect
One World Design
509-838-8812
<a  target="_blank" href="http://www.one-world-design.com";>http://www.one-world-design.com</a>
klerner@...

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Date: 6 Mar 2006 11:27:21 -0600
From: Mark Piepkorn mark@...
Subject: Fwd: Mongolia, Russia, Eastern Europe, Middle East, Africa

A particular request to visit or work on strawbale projects, or other
natural/deep-green projects, in Mongolia / Russia / Eastern Europe /
Middle East / Africa by a well-travelling individual. Though not a
technical issue, this list seemed by far the best place to forward
his request. Reply to Craig Hyman, craighy@...

Thanks


>From: "Craig Hyman" craighy@...
>Subject: Green Building projects globally
>
>To whom it may concern:
>I have recently learnt about the area of green building and in
>particular strawbale construction and I would like to be able to
>find out more about this form of construction and the different
>applications available in the world today.
>I am currently travelling in Mongolia and will be passing through
>Russia, Eastern Europe, The Middle East and Africa going from North
>to South and I would like to know if there is a project listing or
>organising body for green construction projects globally that I may
>contact and find out if I could join or observe a project along my travels.
>If you could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it
>and I look forward to your response.
>Best regards and many thanks,
>Craig Hyman



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Date: 6 Mar 2006 13:07:58 -0600
From: "Andre de Bouter" forum@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:PROPOSAL: electronic bulletin

Yes, thanks.

Andr#233#


Selon Duncan Lithgow duncan@...:

> I'm making this look a bit formal as I want to gauge peoples real
> opinion on it. Please say yes or no if you have an opinion, I'd rather
> people say 'no' if they can't see the point of it or wouldn't bother
> sending things to it. It would save me some time and it's never good
> starting something which turns out to be a waste of energy.
>
> == What is it? ==
> An email sent out once a month (fortnight/week depending on interest and
> volume). The email contains whatever supporters would like other SB'ers
> to know about.
>
> == Why do it? ==
> Not everyone wants to spend ages reading discussions on several lists,
> but some of them would still quite like to know what is going on in SB
> world.
>
> The other reason is that much can be gained from some overarching
> projects. The Last Straw is the main journal of the SB world, this would
> be like the electronic noticeboard of the SB world.
>
> == How would it work? ==
> In short:
> 1. anyone, subscribed or not, sends their notices to the list.
> 2. once a month the editor(s) forms the notices into one email and this
> is sent out to anyone subscribed.
>
> Technically it would be an email list, functionally it is a one way
> announcement list sent out to anyone who is subscribed to the list.
> There would be no discussions on the list (except between editors). The
> editor(s) would clean up what they've been sent and send it out as a
> bulletin. Anyone especially interested in what is being sent to the
> editors for 'consideration' (almost everything would go through) could
> take a look at the public archive of 'submissions'.
>
> == When does this happen? ==
> I suggest this list give it a yes/no by the 14th March. If the answer is
> yes, we ask for comment from all the lists we know of, and I'll take it
> from there.
>
> Duncan
>
> == An example of this electronic bulletin thing ==
> ---------------------
> If you have something you'd like included send a short summary, a title
> and link to: sb-announcements@...
>
> Editors note: We would really love to hear more about xyz type projects,
> please let us know.
>
> On the March noticeboard:
> 1. Technical Issues
> 2. Learning Resources
> 3. What's on Worldwide
>
> = 1. Technical issues =
> == New German moisture report ==
> The good people at the german sb association tell us that they have just
> finished a report called 'What about spilt beer?' looking at the impact
> of drunken parties on the health of Straw Bale walls.
> <<a  target="_blank" href="http://munich-beer-festival/archive/straw-bale-parties.html";>http://munich-beer-festival/archive/straw-bale-parties.html</a>>
>
> == My house burn down! ==
> "Sadly my unfinished house has burnt down as it was left unplastered. I,
> Paul the Pyromaniachs describe in this article how the fire took hold
> and how to avoid it happening to you."
> <<a  target="_blank" href="http://pyro-paul/my-house-is-gone.pdf";>http://pyro-paul/my-house-is-gone.pdf</a>>
>
> = 2. Learning Resources =
> == The Last Straw ==
> "TLS is happy to announce that the CD of back issues is finished. If
> you've ordered one you should get it soon. If you don't know what this
> is about then come and visit the website."
> <<a  target="_blank" href="http://tls.com/resources/backcatalogue-on-cd.html";>http://tls.com/resources/backcatalogue-on-cd.html</a>>
>
> == Wikibook on Straw Bale Construction updated ==
> "The wikibook team has just finished revising the section on
> foundations. Now we're looking for input on the Roofing Options section.
> Check it out and lend a hand."
> <<a  target="_blank" href="http://wikibooks.org/Straw_Bale_Construction";>http://wikibooks.org/Straw_Bale_Construction</a>>
>
> = 3. What's on =
> == Hands for knowledge site updated ==
> "Well another summer is approaching and we've got lots of people looking
> for volunteers to help with their houses. Come and see if there's
> something you'd like to be part of." (Europe only)
> <http:/you get the idea
> --
> Linux user #372812, GPG Encryption Key ID 21A8C63A, available on
> Jabber/GoogleTalk, msn and yahoo with the help of Gaim. Yes - a nerd.
>
>
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> GSBN is an invitation-only forum of key individuals and representatives of
> regional straw construction organizations. The costs of operating this list
> are underwritten by The Last Straw Journal in exchange for use of the GSBN
as
> an advisory board and technical editing arm.
>
> For instructions on joining, leaving, or otherwise using the GSBN list, send
> email to GSBN@...HELP in the SUBJECT line.
> ----
>
>




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Date: 6 Mar 2006 16:19:49 -0600
From: duncan@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Fwd: Mongolia, Russia, Eastern Europe, Middle East, Africa

On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 12:17 -0500, Mark Piepkorn wrote:
> A particular request to visit or work on strawbale projects, or other
> natural/deep-green projects, in Mongolia / Russia / Eastern Europe /
> Middle East / Africa by a well-travelling individual. Though not a
> technical issue, this list seemed by far the best place to forward
> his request. Reply to Craig Hyman, craighy@...

Quote
"Kelly and a revolving cast of others (Steve MacDonald, Matts Myhrman,
etc), sponsored by ADRA, have been going to Mongolia for the past few
years, developing simple, low-cost designs effective and appropriate for
the given micro-climates in Mongolia. She seems to love doing it, and kind
of exudes a gleefulness when she talks about the work. How cool is that?"
(found in the google cache of the repp SB list, no idea who they are myself.)

Duncan
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