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GSBN:Re:SB animal sheds



Thanks for your thoughts, Bob.

Cement is out of the question even if it was a good idea and lime is
also difficult due to transportation and cost.  Also, in a situation
like this both of those carry health risks for the builders that would
be good to avoid completely.  So, it is earth render or nothing - that
makes maintenance easier too; if you can say anything is easy in the
Himalayas.  The earth render is likely to be low quality as in most
cases it will be quite sandy and porous with not much chance of
obtaining clay from anywhere.

The animal sheds I have in mind are not as luxurious as 'barn' implies
and would be quite close quarters (within reason of course).  There is
the potential for animals to be snowed-in for a time so damage to the
walls is likely.  If maintenance is the only fall-back position, so be
it.  But if there is something, however modest, that could be done in
detailing or render, it would be worthwhile.  Whitewash should be
reasonably easy to obtain and that might deter licking?  Nothing will
deter kicking, leaning or urinating though.

Without a time-consuming, potentially costly, and limited-use training
course I can imagine many of the owners would not pay enough attention
to maintenance.  On the face of it, what's wrong with a bit of straw
sticking out of the wall of the shed?  Of course, that is asking for
failure of the wall particularly as the interior could be quite humid.
Cost aside, the best design would have mud brick walls wrapped by straw
walls for more thermal mass and durability inside and insulation
outside.  Then there is the problem of providing sufficient roof
overhangs in a place where timber is at a premium and long lengths are
hard to find if you could afford them.

Not easy and I'm not sure if it is worthwhile pursuing straw bale in
this case given all the difficulties and therefore the uncertainty of
its longevity.  If straw is viable it will still be in limited supply.
I would rather see it used for people's sleeping rooms (and not the rest
of the house) than for animal shelters.

-Andrew


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Subject:
GSBN:SB animal sheds
From:
"Bob Bolles" Bob@...
Date:
Tue, 7 Mar 2006 17:39:20 -0800
To:
"GSBN" GSBN@...

To:
"GSBN" GSBN@...


Andrew,
If the soils are salty, it seems unlikely to me that the animals will
have a
preference of the salt in the wall plaster over the salt in the soil.

I take the opposite approach regarding plastering animal shelters
(barns to
us). I would be considerably more concerned with the animals damaging
themselves then the damage to the walls. The walls can be easily
replastered
as required. An animal injuring itself would be of much greater
consequences.
I would not use a cement or lime plaster on the interior of an animal
shelter for just that reason.
Regards~
bb

Bob Bolles
Bob@...
www.StrawBaleHouse.com
San Diego California, USA



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