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RE: GSBN:Re: GSBN:GSBN re Ecohouse



If the mice are already smoking, who cares about the asbestos?  By the way,
what ARE they smoking?

Nehemiah Stone
stoneandstraw@...



> [Original Message]
> From: John jswearingen@...
> To: GSBN GSBN@...
> Date: 1/17/2007 1:14:24 PM
> Subject: RE: GSBN:Re: GSBN:GSBN re Ecohouse
>
> <No problem with mice at all. >
> Isn't there a problem with asbestos, though?
>
> John
>
> John Swearingen
>  SKILLFUL MEANS
> design and construction
> www.skillful-means.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GSBN [<a  target="_blank" href="mailto:GSBN@...";>mailto:GSBN@...] On Behalf Of Evgen
Shirokov
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:14 PM
> To: GSBN
> Subject: GSBN:Re: GSBN:GSBN re Ecohouse
>
>
> Hello,
>
> we have at least 5 straw-bale houses in Belarus covered by asbestos
> sheeting, oldest is 4 years. No problem with mice at all. If you made
> asbestos sheeting (10-12mm)without holes, mice can't destroy it, i think,
or
> , may be, only some special Siberian mice... From our experiance: mice
never
> enter straw-bale walls, if wall have good dencity, sheeting is closer with
> bales (or use ray straw- mice never go in, in any case).
>
> Evgeny Shirokov
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Jakub Wihan" kuba@...
> To: "GSBN" GSBN@...
> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:03:45 +0100
> Subject: GSBN:GSBN re Ecohouse
>
> >
> > Dear all.
> >
> > Another thing to consider when discussing Sarah's straw bale house are
> > mice.
> >
> > There are two straw bale houses in Siberia, that have been built the
> > similar way as Sarah's except there was asbestos sheeting covering
> > unplastered straw instead of plastic on those houses. Only after one
> > winter the Siberians decided to take the sheeting off and plaster the
> > straw under it, because the amount of mice loving the space in the
> > winter was incredible. Check:
> > <a  target="_blank" href="http://www.jakubwihan.com/pdf/SBinSiberia.pdf";>http://www.jakubwihan.com/pdf/SBinSiberia.pdf</a> page 9.
> >
> > There is also one intentionally unplastered straw bale house in the
> > Czech Republic. I heard that the owner is troubled by mice living in
> > bales.
> >
> > Love
> >
> > Kuba
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Strawbalefutures" info@...
> > To: "'GSBN'" GSBN@...
> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:36 PM
> > Subject: GSBN:GSBN re Ecohouse
> >
> >
> > > We are more than happy to support Gernot Minke's nomination also.
> > >
> > > And on the subject of the ecohouse in London I would just like to
> > > say that I trained Sarah Wigglesworth and Jeremy Till in 1997 before
> > > they built their house, and gave them the benefit of my advice, part
> > > of which was not to clad
> > > the straw in the way that they have, so I am delighted that it is
> proving
> > > to
> > > work so well.
> > > Also they publicise their building as the first in the UK with
planning
> > > permission and Building regulation approval, but this is not correct,
as
> I
> > > helped self-builders to build their own loadbearing bungalow near
Brecon
> > > in
> > > Wales in 1996, and this had full planning permission and Building
> > > regulation
> > > approval. It was also featured on the BBC programme Countryfile in
early
> > > 1997.
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > > Barbara
> > >
> > > Warning! Strawbale Building Can Seriously Transform Your Life!
> > >
> > > Amazon Nails-Strawbalefutures. A not-for-profit social enterprise.
> > > www.strawbalefutures.org.uk info@...
> > > Tel: 00 44 (0) 845 458 2173
> > > Hollinroyd Farm, Todmorden, W.Yorks OL14 8RJ
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: GSBN [<a  target="_blank" href="mailto:GSBN@...";>mailto:GSBN@...] On Behalf Of Bruce
> > > King
> > > Sent: 10 January 2007 23:25
> > > To: GSBN
> > > Subject: Re: GSBN:Re: GSBN re: Minke
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 10, 2007, at 2:43 PM, Frank &amp; Ingrid wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dear GSBN'ers . . . Being on the subject of new members we would
> > >> like to ask if a mail we send end of October 2006 in regards to a
> > >> nomination by us for Kermo Juerman from Estonia actually was
> > >> received by the list . . .
> > >
> > > Frank, I don't remember seeing it.
> > >
> > > and also support Gernot Minke's inclusion in GSBN, though I wonder
> > > if anyone asked him if he WANTS to be on this list.  I can't imagine
> > > why not, but you never know.
> > >
> > > Some of you may be interested to know that when I met Gernot a year
> > > ago, I asked why he had selected that photograph of the "ecohouse"
> > > in London for his cover.  He replied that he hadn't -- the publisher
> > > did.
> > >
> > > That building has, among many elements, an unplastered  straw bale
> > > wall protected from weather by a sheet of currogated polycarbonate
> > > sheeting, with an 8 cm vented cavity between.  When in London last
> > > November, I visited the house and talked with the architect (who
> > > also lives there).  I was surprised to see that the bales still look
> > > fresh and beautiful after several years, and appear to be providing
> > > insulation because air flow is stopped by a layer of hydraulic lime
> > > plaster on the inside surface.
> > >
> > > see
> > > <a  target="_blank" href="http://www.swarch.co.uk/PROJECTS/type2/Project4/sos%20information.pd";>http://www.swarch.co.uk/PROJECTS/type2/Project4/sos%20information.pd</a>
> > > f
> > >
> > > and  <a  target="_blank" href="http://www.swarch.co.uk/index0.html";>http://www.swarch.co.uk/index0.html</a>
> > >
> > > happy new year to all,
> > >
> > > Bruce King
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