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Re: GSBN:Securing Bales
For taller walls, 12'-20' , we typically use mid height horizontal
box beams or plate stiffeners. The box beams are 2x4-2x8 with ply on
top, and the lighter plate stiffeners are 1/2" ply with continuous
flat 2x4 of each side. The 2x2 14ga mesh is stapled 2" o.c. here in
seismic country. We have also created vertical ply fin walls at the
sides of openings for tall walls.
At 01:33 PM 8/27/2007, you wrote:
My experience is the same for most reasonably sized walls. The
attachment of mesh at material transitions & bucks has been adequate in
most cases. The "velcro" pad of nails that John refers to is also what
we use now.
For taller walls, I'd be curious to hear who else uses a mid-height girt
with compression for stiffening and what the construction of the girt
is. I have two projects, one commercial, one public, where we are
looking at this.
That said, when wind loads are high, even smaller walls seem to benefit
from reinforcement (external pinning) during construction even if it is
not called out as needed structurally after plaster.
John Swearingen wrote:
We haven't used dowels for years, since a good mesh/plaster skin does the
job as well or better. We occasionally use rebar pins on the outside when
tying the skins together, but that is only if the wall needs very high
performance. 20D nails driven an inch or so into the plates, with heads
sticking up, at 16" o.co, is much more effective at keeping bales from
slipping that a couple of rebar dowels.
On 8/27/07, Joyce Coppinger jc10508@... wrote:
I've heard from a couple of people that some builders are not securing the
bales with interior staking, exterior pinning, stitching, securing bales
with dowels through the box column, not using rebar coming up out of the
foundation or stem wall or footings.
Have you heard anything about this? Do you know why they would discontinue
What type of pinning or staking or securing method do you use?
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