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-> RE: [SPAM?]  RE: GSBN:Re: Lime plaster problems -Hemp the answer
     by "Paul Olivier" paul.olivier@...
-> RE: GSBN:Re: Lime plaster problems -Hemp the answer
     by billc billc_lists@...
-> Re: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French and English)
     by "Andre_de_Bouter" forum@...
-> RE: GSBN: Earth plasters
     by sarahjohnston@...
-> Re: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French and     
English)
     by cmagwood@...
-> Re: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French and 
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     by billc billc_lists@...
-> Re: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French  and 
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     by BuildersWithoutBorders mail@...
-> Re: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French and     
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-> Re: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French	and English)
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Date: 15 Oct 2007 00:54:29 -0500
From: "Paul Olivier" paul.olivier@...
Subject: RE: [SPAM?]  RE: GSBN:Re: Lime plaster problems -Hemp the answer

Chris,

I would contact Carl Simpson of Riceland in Stuttgart, Arkansas.
He has 50 lbs bags that are easy to ship.

Thanks.
Paul

Paul A. Olivier
ESR International LLC
27c Pham Hong Thai, Ward 10
Dalat City
Lam Dong Province
Vietnam

Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam)
Texas telephone: 1-214-306-8746 (rings Vietnam)
Mobile: 090-6458735 (in Vietnam)
Mobile: 84-90-6458735 (outside Vietnam)
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Old Website: <a  target="_blank" href="http://www.esrla.com/";>http://www.esrla.com/</a>
Skype address: Xpolivier

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cmagwood@...
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To: GSBN
Subject: Re: [SPAM?] RE: GSBN:Re: Lime plaster problems -Hemp the answer

Paul,

In the great long list of materials I'd love to play with, rice hulls
figure highly. But unless somebody who lives a whole lot closer to a rice
paddy than I do sends me a bag full, it's not something I'd ever have
access to!

C

> Chris,
>
> In the place of hemp, have you ever considered using chopped rice hulls.
> They also contain a lot of silica.
>
> Thanks.
> Paul
>
> Paul A. Olivier
> ESR International LLC
> 27c Pham Hong Thai, Ward 10
> Dalat City
> Lam Dong Province
> Vietnam
>
> Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam)
> Texas telephone: 1-214-306-8746 (rings Vietnam)
> Mobile: 090-6458735 (in Vietnam)
> Mobile: 84-90-6458735 (outside Vietnam)
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> Skype address: Xpolivier
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GSBN [<a  target="_blank" href="mailto:GSBN@...";>mailto:GSBN@...] On Behalf Of
> cmagwood@...
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:52 AM
> To: GSBN
> Subject: Re: GSBN:Re: Lime plaster problems -Hemp the answer
>
> I would concur that interesting and largely positive things happen when
> mixing lime with hemp! I make an oatmeally mixture of lime, gypsum and
> chopped hemp that makes an expanding (slightly) insulation for around
> windows and doors to replace the dreaded expanding foam that everybody is
> so fond of up here.
>
> The same mix works very well for making cordwood walls... the resulting
> mix is strong enough to be the bearing matrix and insulative enough that
> one can dispense with having to make an inner and outer mortar layer with
> loose fill in between.
>
> "Some chemistry" goes on between the lime and the high-silica hemp hurd
> that actually produces a mild bubbling/foaming action, making it the one
> mortar that swells slightly instead of shrinking.
>
> This summer I hope to use this mix as an insulative base under an earthen
> floor. We'll see what happens!
>
> Chris
>
>>
>> The best source of information on lime  is to be found through
>>
>> <a  target="_blank" href="http://www.buildinglimesforum.org.uk/";>http://www.buildinglimesforum.org.uk/</a>
>>
>> There are now related organisations in the USA and Scandinavia.
>>
>> Worth subscribing to their journal. There is a fantastic article in
>> the latest issue Vol 14 by Becky Little and Tom Morton
>> called "Mixing it with Lime and Clay"
>>
>> Maybe Tom Morton would send you a copy of the article if you ask
>> Contact him through his excellent web site.  Download the info he has
>> on unfired earth buildings
>> <a  target="_blank" href="http://www.arc-architects.com/";>http://www.arc-architects.com/</a>
>>
>> Been reading the responses about cellulose
>>
>> Hemp is the answer , Hemp-lime plasters/renders solve all  problems.
>> Doesn't shrink or crack, copes admirably with  moisture, etc. etc
>>
>> Just finished writing a guide to hemp-lime construction ( well
>> almost) yesterday . Should be out in April 2008 published by BRE/IHS
>> Press.
>>
>> Hemp web sites
>> www.hemplime.org.uk
>> <a  target="_blank" href="http://www.limetechnology.co.uk/pages/hemcrete.php";>http://www.limetechnology.co.uk/pages/hemcrete.php</a>
>>
>>
>> Tom Woolley
>>
>>
>> On 13 Oct 2007, at 00:44, MattsMyhrman@...:
>>
>>> In a message dated 10/10/2007 1:17:11 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
>>> andy@...:
>>>
>>>> Sometimes however lime plaster
>>>> was not used and rather a cow dung earth plaster was used followed by
>>>> regular coats of lime wash...though at the coast where we
>>>> experience strong
>>>> wind driven rains a lime coating was the norm.
>>>
>>> I believe that many of the cob buildings on the southern coast of
>>> England
>>> (Devon?) used several (maybe 4-5 initially) coats of lime wash.  It
>>> was
>>> considered somewhat sacrificial, and was followed up, after a year
>>> or two, with a
>>> couple more coats.  After that, another coat every couple of
>>> years.  Maybe Barbara
>>> Jones can check in on this  one, and also tell us whether lime wash
>>> over cob
>>> or earth plaster has traditionally been used anywhere in the
>>> British Isles
>>> where they experience driving rains coming in off the sea (up on
>>> the northwest
>>> coast of Scotland?).
>>>
>>>
>>> **************************************
>>>  
>>> 
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>> Tom Woolley
>> woolley.tom@...
>> Rachel Bevan Architects
>> 17A Main Street
>> Saintfield
>> Ballynahinch
>> County Down
>> BT24 7AA
>> 028 97 512851
>>
>> also:
>> Graduate School of the Environment
>> Centre for Alternative Technology
>> Unit 7, Dyfi Eco Parc
>> Machynlleth
>> Powys, SY208AX
>>
>> 01654 703562
>>
>>
>>
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Date: 15 Oct 2007 01:23:22 -0500
From: billc billc_lists@...
Subject: RE: GSBN:Re: Lime plaster problems -Hemp the answer


That would be <<a  target="_blank" href="http://www.ricehull.com/";>http://www.ricehull.com/</a>>

They have 65lb bags of unground, and 1000lb "tote bags" (their words)
of ground hulls.  I wonder who totes them, the Jolly Green Giant?

No mention on the site of costs.   But the home page does have a big
"request a sample" button.



At 12:46 PM +0700 10/15/07, Paul Olivier wrote:
>Chris,
>
>I would contact Carl Simpson of Riceland in Stuttgart, Arkansas.
>He has 50 lbs bags that are easy to ship.
>
>Thanks.
>Paul
>
>Paul A. Olivier

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Date: 15 Oct 2007 04:02:05 -0500
From: "Andre_de_Bouter" forum@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French and
English)

Dear Sally ;-)

I'm sure Tom does not care for misspellings and as for nationalities,...
they are a pretty silly concept anyway...

Tom's bi-lingual book is both in French and English.

I did notice 2 details in the book that seem like (minor) errors to me.
I would like to know if anyone on this list has any information on it:
1. Tom states that 90% of the SB homes in the world are loadbearing.
Personally I was under the impression it was more like 90% of the SB
homes are post and beam. (Gu)estimates anyone? What does the SB Registry
say?
2. Tom also says that it were the railroad workers in Nebraska that
started SB building. I don't remember reading this elsewhere. Though it
seems to make sense that railroad workers would create fast shelter it
does not seem logical to me that they would make a real house (because
they would probably move on as the railroad advances).

I consider Tom's book a wonderful addition to SB literature. It is a
very inspiring 'hands on' book including Toms great sense of humor.

Bye,
Andr#233# - have indeed been a butcher (in my life before SB) - de Bouter


> Andr#233# de Bouter wrote;
>
> 'Tom Rijven, alias Tom Raven, alias The Straw Bale Gypsy, yes that
> colorful Dutch guy with a heart of gold and ferment in his plaster that
> dippes his bales mostly in France has at long last realized his dream
> to put his SB-system in writing.'
>
> Thank you to those that responded to my inquiries and all the keen info
> passed on this GSBN.
>
> A sincere apology to Mr. Rijven for the misspelling of his name and
> nationality. Thanks to Andre de Butcher for correcting me.
>
> Is Tom's book in English? 'Quoth the Rijven Evermore'
>
> Mark (you can call me Sally) Schueneman
> <a  target="_blank" href="http://www.coloradostrawbale.org/index.php";>http://www.coloradostrawbale.org/index.php</a>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Andr#233# de Bouter forum@...
>> To: GSBN GSBN@...
>> Date: 10/12/2007 3:01:25 AM
>> Subject: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French and
>>
> English)
>
>>
>>> Chris Magwood said:
>>> The walls with the least hollows? Those that have been "French dipped"
>>> which is why I like that method of building so much.
>>>
>> Tom Rijven, alias Tom Raven, alias The Straw Bale Gypsy, yes that
>> colorful Dutch guy with a heart of gold and fermet in his plaster that
>> dippes his bales mostly in France  has  at long last realized his dream
>> to put his SB-system in writing. And what's more, in wonderful pictures
>> and drawings too. We celebrated the birth of this baby 3 weeks ago in
>> one of his recent buildings and having read it I can only suggest you
>> buy it!
>>
>> <a  target="_blank" href="http://www.gouttedesable.fr/product_info.php?cPath=22&amp;products_id=33";>http://www.gouttedesable.fr/product_info.php?cPath=22&amp;products_id=33</a>
>>
>> Entre paille et terre
>> Par Tom Rijven
>> Published by Goutte de Sable <<a  target="_blank" href="http://www.gouttedesable.fr/";>http://www.gouttedesable.fr/</a>>, sept 2007
>> 160 pages, couleur, ISBN 978-2-9523714-3-8
>>
>> Andr#233#-only just recovered-de Bouter
>>
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Date: 15 Oct 2007 08:49:51 -0500
From: sarahjohnston@...
Subject: RE: GSBN: Earth plasters

Sven chiming in....

During the workshop with Tom we made a last minute decision to try his
fermentation proccess.

Due to the fact that we did not have the 'fermented water' which he likes to
add to the plaster and we were not able to allow the plaster to sit and
ferment, the proccess was given several 'boosts'.  Silage was added to the
mix along with hay.  I believe the hay was where the main issue arose as the
hay had been wet in the past and had some pretty good mould in it.  The next
issue was that we were plastering the interior of an unheated space during a
cool and not entirely dry part of the year.

Very soon after the plaster was applied at 40mm thick we were seeing black
mould start to grow on the surface and not the farmiliar white fluffy mould.
I scraped the outer surface off to find the mould did not apear to be active
deeper into the plaster. Or perhaps I should say it was not visible.  We
aplied lime water to the areas of mould and almost without fail the mould
was gone.  Once the plaster dried all sign of the mould was gone.

In the future I would be happy to use fermented plaster but I will not use
mouldy hay in it and the silage may be reserved for animal food only.

By the way, this issue is on a wall which is in the living area and spans
into the dining area of the home.  There will be a wood stove installed
within a couple of feet of this wall.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a finish coat?  Would it be good insurance
to use Borax in the final earth plaster?  Or something else??
Is the mould likely to be dormant and the wall MUCH more prone to mould
growth in the future?  My thought is that it would be slightly more prone to
mould but given the location within the home and the wood stove we sould not
have to worry too much down the track. My thought is that the Borax will be
added...

Thanks for any ideas!

Sven Johnston

- -----Original Message-----
From: GSBN [<a  target="_blank" href="mailto:GSBN@...]On";>mailto:GSBN@...]On</a> Behalf Of Mark
Schueneman
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:49 AM
To: GSBN
Subject: Re: GSBN: Earth plasters


Graeme,

Thanks for your submission and insight. The first I'd heard of 'fermenting'
straw (or paper) was from some friends from NZ, Sven and Sarah Johnston,
who hosted a workshop and a guest presenter was Tom Raven, the colorful
Frenchman, who uses a fermented mix, like bakers use a yeast starter for
baking breads. Tom swears by this fermenting and concurs with you on added
durability of the earth plasters. The Johnstons found they had some mold
issues, maybe as a result of this mix tho. Have you experience any issues
with molds? Maybe you'd care to chime in Sven?

Mark Schueneman
Colorado Straw Bale Association
303-444-6027 hm./of.
303-591-9841 cell



> [Original Message]
> From: Graeme North ecodesign@...
> To: GSBN GSBN@...
> Date: 10/10/2007 3:08:32 PM
> Subject: Re: GSBN: Earth plasters
>
> We have found the addition of pulped paper as a fine fibre very very good.
> Its made either from office paper or newspaper - it can be made by
throwing
> soaked paper into a concrete mixer with lots of water and just letting it
> roll until completely broken up , then draining off excess water before
use.
> It gives a very fine fibre which is enormously beneficial in terms of
> increasing strength, and durability of earth plasters. If it ferments a
bit
> even better (all ferment seems to help earth plasters - using water that
has
> had a bit of straw left in it for a week or two to start to fizz is good
as
> well)  - there appears to be some enzymic reaction that takes place
between
> paper or ferment water and clay that helps workability and durability.
>
> Paper pulp eliminates dusting from earth plasters - helpful especially if
> the soil is a bit silty.  It also sticks well - we use it over
> pre-compressed straw without meshing.
> We also use it as a finishing plaster over drywall - a very nice finish
and
> it sticks like ...glue.
>
> It is also very effective as an additive to earth bricks as well -
increases
> robustness, durability, and also lowers density giving better insulation.
>
> The amount of paper pulp that can be added can be quite high  - we often
use
> up to around 30% or so by volume to plaster , and have made mud bricks
with
> up to 50% paper pulp - cardboard houses anyone?
> I am currently looking at building with cob and mud brick mixes using
> roughly 2 parts clay-soil, 2 parts wood shavings (long fibered rippings)
or
> straw, and 1 part paper pulp - very tough, very light, easy to work, and
> looking promising.  Very good insulation, and very nice to use as gravity
> increases - remember that there is plenty of evidence that gravity doubles
> in strength very thirty years.
>
> As to lime over earth - I9ve found it works well so far IF there is good
> keying and wetting - if the initial earth is a cob type mix with lots of
> (straw) fibre with plenty of fibres left hanging out of a rough surface,
> then that is good too for tying the layers together.
>
> I9ve just lost a patch off a bit of a small experimental earth plastered
and
> whitewashed straw wall where the earth plasters layers were not keyed well
> together. Keying is good.
>
> Best
>
>
> Graeme,
> Graeme North Architects,
> 49 Matthew Road,
> RD1, Warkworth,
> New Zealand 0981
> Ph/fax +64 (0)9  4259305
>
> ecodesign@...
> www.ecodesign.co.nz
>
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Date: 15 Oct 2007 09:31:14 -0500
From: cmagwood@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French and   
  English)

Andre,

How do we get copies of Tom's book? What's the actual title? The
publisher? Is there somebody distributing them in North America?

So much excitement... so many questions!

Chris


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Date: 15 Oct 2007 13:17:25 -0500
From: billc billc_lists@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French and 
English)

At 10:54 AM +0200 10/15/07, Andre de Bouter wrote:
>
>1. Tom states that 90% of the SB homes in the world are loadbearing.
>Personally I was under the impression it was more like 90% of the SB
>homes are post and beam. (Gu)estimates anyone? What does the SB Registry
>say?

94 loadbearing - 12% of those reporting
581 non-load bearing - 78%
65 hybrid - 8%

The remaining 593 didn't report.

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Date: 15 Oct 2007 13:49:55 -0500
From: BuildersWithoutBorders mail@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French  and 
English)

Hi Andre --

I told Tom at the ESBG in August that when his book was available, we
(Natural Building Resources) would distribute the book in the US, and
help promote it.  I have not heard from him about it, but perhaps you
can give me the details - contact info, etc, for the publisher.   If
there is already a distributor in the US &amp; Canada, however, we could
all order from there.
thanks,
Catherine

At 08:18 AM 10/15/2007, you wrote:
>Andre,
>
>How do we get copies of Tom's book? What's the actual title? The
>publisher? Is there somebody distributing them in North America?
>
>So much excitement... so many questions!
>
>Chris
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Date: 15 Oct 2007 13:52:34 -0500
From: "Andre_de_Bouter" forum@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French and   
  English)

Hello Chris,

The English title is : 'Between Straw and Earth'
Published by Goutte de Sable <<a  target="_blank" href="http://www.gouttedesable.fr/";>http://www.gouttedesable.fr/</a>>, sept 2007
(They are our co-editor for Petite botte de paille, the translation of
Small SB. But I have no idea about their export services.)
160 pages, couleur, ISBN 978-2-9523714-3-8
<a  target="_blank" href="http://www.gouttedesable.fr/product_info.php?cPath=22&amp;products_id=33&amp;language=en";>http://www.gouttedesable.fr/product_info.php?cPath=22&amp;products_id=33&amp;language=en</a>

Their email

Now, for all of you who laugh when you see some of the english on the
website, remember this joke:

How do we call someone who speaks 3 languages? ... "Tri-lingual"
How do we call someone who speaks 2 languages? ... "Bi-lingual"
How do we call someone who speaks only 1 language? ... "American" ;-) or
French or English or...

Andr#233# -will mumble in just about any language after 5 pints of local
brew- de Bouter


cmagwood@...#233#crit :
> Andre,
>
> How do we get copies of Tom's book? What's the actual title? The
> publisher? Is there somebody distributing them in North America?
>
> So much excitement... so many questions!
>
> Chris
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Date: 15 Oct 2007 14:23:14 -0500
From: Joyce Coppinger jc10508@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French	and
English)

A lot of us can't speak good American either. "-)

Joyce

on 10.15.2007 1:43 PM, Andre de Bouter at forum@...:

> Hello Chris,
> 
> The English title is : 'Between Straw and Earth'
> Published by Goutte de Sable <<a  target="_blank" href="http://www.gouttedesable.fr/";>http://www.gouttedesable.fr/</a>>, sept 2007
> (They are our co-editor for Petite botte de paille, the translation of
> Small SB. But I have no idea about their export services.)
> 160 pages, couleur, ISBN 978-2-9523714-3-8
>
<a  target="_blank" href="http://www.gouttedesable.fr/product_info.php?cPath=22&amp;products_id=33&amp;language=";>http://www.gouttedesable.fr/product_info.php?cPath=22&amp;products_id=33&amp;language=</a>
> en
> 
> Their email
> 
> Now, for all of you who laugh when you see some of the english on the
> website, remember this joke:
> 
> How do we call someone who speaks 3 languages? ... "Tri-lingual"
> How do we call someone who speaks 2 languages? ... "Bi-lingual"
> How do we call someone who speaks only 1 language? ... "American" ;-) or
> French or English or...
> 
> Andre -will mumble in just about any language after 5 pints of local
> brew- de Bouter
> 
> 
> cmagwood@...ecrit :
>> Andre,
>> 
>> How do we get copies of Tom's book? What's the actual title? The
>> publisher? Is there somebody distributing them in North America?
>> 
>> So much excitement... so many questions!
>> 
>> Chris
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Date: 15 Oct 2007 14:26:21 -0500
From: Joyce Coppinger jc10508@...
Subject: Re: GSBN:Tom Rijven is is finaly available in Print (in French	and 
English)

Interesting stat from the registry! Thanks.

Joyce

on 10.15.2007 1:09 PM, billc at billc_lists@...:

> At 10:54 AM +0200 10/15/07, Andre de Bouter wrote:
>> 
>> 1. Tom states that 90% of the SB homes in the world are loadbearing.
>> Personally I was under the impression it was more like 90% of the SB
>> homes are post and beam. (Gu)estimates anyone? What does the SB Registry
>> say?
> 
> 94 loadbearing - 12% of those reporting
> 581 non-load bearing - 78%
> 65 hybrid - 8%
> 
> The remaining 593 didn't report.
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